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Pyo!

Discussion in 'Vet's Corner' started by Patty, Sep 4, 2012.

  1. Patty

    Patty Breeding Savannahs for the Home

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    Got up this morning and my F2 Lacy isn't acting right. I picked her up and she has a discharge. For the life of me, I can't remember how to treat! I have an appt this morn at the vet, but want to be ready to tell her. I think it is baytril and lutilyse???
     
  2. Wyldthingz

    Wyldthingz Savannah Super Cat

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    I have successfully treated 2 pyos with litters after. Cats respond better than dogs.

    Start with a blood panel- kidney failure is the reason a cat will die of a pyo. Check that the kidneys are okay and the wbc count. Ideally, do an ultrasound but if you can't, start lutilyse, Baytril and clavamox (takes out both gram negative and gram positive bacteria). If the pyo is open and her values are good, proceed with treatment of those according you your vet's dosing.
    I recommend doing a CBC every few days to check that she is fighting off the bacteria and maintaining good kidney function. If those decline, spay immediately.

    I would also give her SQ fluids daily if tolerable to the cat.
    Many vets say that spay is the only treatment. This is more likely true in dogs but not so true in cats.
    Breed her on her very first heat after treatment. You must breed her everytime there after or she is at risk for pyo. She can not cycle without being rebred for optimal treatment.
     
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  3. Patty

    Patty Breeding Savannahs for the Home

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    Thanks Kelly. Took her to the vet and of course she wanted to spay. Told her I wanted to try to treat her first. She gave me Baytril and gave her a shot of Covenia. She didn't have any Lutilyse, so I ordered it online. Told me to give her fluids also. She has a open one and is discharging bad! That is a good thing though, so fingers crossed!
     
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  4. admin

    admin Paige Staff Member

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    Patty, I hope she is ok...please let us know how she does...
     
  5. Sita

    Sita Savannah Super Cat

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    How many heat's can a cat have and not be bred before We must worry about Pypo? I'm the one who has the almost 1yr old male who do far has bred only his favorite lady-love. I have 3 cats that have each had two heats.
     
  6. Sita

    Sita Savannah Super Cat

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    Bye the way, my mentor says two. Are people in agreement with this?
     
  7. Wyldthingz

    Wyldthingz Savannah Super Cat

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    No, there is no certain number. Some cats can go in and out of heats without ever having pyos. Some can go years without being bred. I think it has to do with a cat's individual resistance to bacteria. Just like some woman having issues with yeast or tract infections, so some cats may be more prone to pyo. I had two pyo back to back. It was during a terrible stormy period where water was pooling badly on the ground of my stud enclosure. Both queens were unrelated, one was bred and pyo'ed the other was not bred and pyo'd. I have not had a pyo since. I can only figure that the bacteria count as particular different maybe due to the environmental wetness however I really don't know. That is just an assumption. They pyo because their uterus is open during the time of estrus and harmful bacteria overgrowth gets started and is not balanced out by the normal beneficial flora.

    I do think they their fertility will decline over time if they aren't bred. Older unproven girls seem to be harder to be pregnant than the young ones. Waiting to long is not recommended. I ran into a 7 year old Persian when I worked at the vet's that had never been bred. She had never pyo'ed either.
     
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  8. Sita

    Sita Savannah Super Cat

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    Very helpful. Do you think Clostridium would make it more like likely? I have a female that's had it on and off since before I bought her.
     
  9. Patty

    Patty Breeding Savannahs for the Home

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    Lacy is doing much better! Her discharge is down to almost nothing and she is eating canned food again. She had a litter about 2 years ago and as far as I knew, she never went back in heat! She was bred when I got her, so I didn't know if she had silent heats or not. I will be putting her out to live with the male and hopefully she will get bred, then I will get her spayed.
     
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  10. Patti

    Patti Admin Staff Member

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    I agree with Kelly, I have a couple of F1s who have gone a couple of years without getting bred (because they reject the males) and have never gotten pyo. The problem is you just never know when it's going to strike, and when it does it can be life threatening. Also, I'm told that if a cat gets it once they are prone to getting it again.
     
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