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kittens biting hear problem :(

Glamouresque

Savannah Super Cat
#1
Hi everyone, I come to you for your advices on a behaviour of my 18 days kittens.
I want to know if this append frequently for higher generations ?
They are F4 SBT, but we can see the wild factor is there... dad is a very intense stud.

I was going to take nice pictures today and...
....picture is better than a description.

This is Degas, the bad boy of the pack.
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This is Rodin, a big boy also. Both of is hears are bloody.
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They fight a lot together.
I was thinking a chewing toy might help. Maybe a sour product. I am not sure what is safe for this tender age. A collar is maybe an option ?

The ears are super clean, and they don't scratch them (for now).
 

Glamouresque

Savannah Super Cat
#3
You think it could be mom ? I see them fighting a lot, but what is strange is they got the bloody ears at the same time, now its less bloody. It probably just happened :(

I am not sure, she moved them yesterday, she doesn't like to see them climbing and getting out of the nest.
maybe she is a bit stressed, but she looks calm.
The gentle boy is ok, no hear bites. I will try to look at the wound to try to find out, and check on them often.
Mom doesn't want the kitten park (with higher walls), so they can escape the nest easily since yesterday.
 

Glamouresque

Savannah Super Cat
#7
Can it get very bad ? or it will stop by itself.
It looks like a piece is missing for Rodin.
Mom usually is very gentle mom, even with the other kittens.
 

Brigitte Cowell

Moderator
Staff member
#8
It depends on the queen, some can do a LOT of damage so it is not something to take lightly... monitor carefully.

With the one and only queen I've experienced this with, with the first litter she only targeted one kitten (the most adventurous) and I found a bitter lick-stop pet lotion that dissuaded her so that the ear healed and they were close to weaning age when she started this behavior. The second litter she had she was worse with, especially one kitten where we ended up putting a tiny conehead on her for a couple weeks until old enough to wean. We worked super-hard those weeks getting them to start eating solids. Yet that one kitten as adult has scarring on her outer ears and the fur never grew...
May15-10-dark-girl-sit.jpg May30-10-nadiya-cone-shame.jpg 2011-5-7-makingbiscuits.jpg You can see in the last pic how her outer ears are lacking fur at the base and so makes her face look funny. She is also very sensitive about anyone touching her ears :-(

We spayed the queen after the second litter, fortunately neither of her daughters put into programs slowed the slightest tendency to do this to their kittens!
 

Glamouresque

Savannah Super Cat
#9
wow looks similar.
Thank you for your experience with this, this is my fear a big scar on one of the ear, or worse.
You removed them from the queen ? They are not even 3 weeks now, but 2 kittens is not a good sign :(
 

Brigitte Cowell

Moderator
Staff member
#10
No, we didn't remove them at 3 weeks of age. As I said, we used bitter lotions and a conehead eventually to keep them with mama until they were eating solids (so 5-6 weeks). Seeing the scarring that Nadiya now has on her ears though, I wonder if we would have done better with separating from mama and having scheduled visits with her for nursing while I was there to keep her from grooming the ears.