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new raw starter

Niels

Savannah Super Cat
Hi, i'm new to this.

I hope somebody can help me with a few questions.

1. If you give raw food can you still provide kibble also 24hours a day ?
2. Do you calculate the dieet for the right balance in bone - meat - organs ?
3. Is 1 time raw food a day enough ? (if they have kibble also)
4. now i mix regular kibble with senior kibble for my old cat. Is this bad for the kitten ?

about the raw food ;
I want to start with :

-1 day chicks
- Rabbit mix
- chicken mix
- horse mix

I can get almost everything but I can only buy in packages of 12 kg.
So i can't buy too much at once.

Shall i start with something else ?
This is also available : (not only mix but also organs, carcass... and the mouse and bird at whole pieces)

- cow
- duck
- lamb
- pheasant
- pigeon
- quail
- turkey
- many kinds of fish
- all sizes of mouse and rat
- hamster
- kangaroo
- deer

Thanks for those who answers and take the time to read.
 

WitchyWoman

Admin
Staff member
Providing food 24 hrs a day whether it's kibble or something else may make your cat obese. The smell of the food keeps digestive processing going all the time and tends to make adult cats eat more than they should. Kittens should be fed as much as they need.

One of the most important things to remember when feeding raw is to make sure the diet has a balanced ratio of meat/organ/bone. Excellent resources about that and raw diets can be found at
catinfo.org
catnutrition.org
rawfedcats.org

If there are any of your questions left unanswered after you read through their material, come on back and folks will be happy to discuss.

I can tell you that when using meat from large mammals, it should be supplemented or fed as a treat if the meat does not contain organs and bones. And those sites I referred to above will recommend that to keep calcium/potassium ratio in balance, it's best to feed organ meats from the same animal. So if you can't get kangaroo liver, heart, kidneys it would be difficult to balance the diet.
 

Niels

Savannah Super Cat
Oke thanks,

I would go read thru it before i make my order.
The website where i make my order also have some weekly schedules.
Then i can compare it's a good one.

about the kibble :
Maybe i can fill the bowl with kibble in the morning and evening half instead of full.
Then it would be empty almost half of the day.
My cats now are used to a filled bowl. 1 of them is 16 years old so after 16 years i don't want to make to drastic changes.

none of my cats have high weight, do savannahs have easier an eating disorder then other cats ?
 

WitchyWoman

Admin
Staff member
I didn't say all cats will get fat from 24 hr. kibble. I said they may. Research shows there is a higher tendency for cats with 24 hr access to food to be obese compared to cats who are fed 2-3 times per day. The species doesn't matter.
 

Niels

Savannah Super Cat
I didn't say all cats will get fat from 24 hr. kibble. I said they may. Research shows there is a higher tendency for cats with 24 hr access to food to be obese compared to cats who are fed 2-3 times per day. The species doesn't matter.

Oke good,

still many questions but I will read the websites first. :)

Anyhow i'm not gonna start 100% raw yet. just bought for 500 $ kibble.
That's normally for 8 months. if i do half half 16 months. just under the expire date.
 

Niels

Savannah Super Cat
One of the most important things to remember when feeding raw is to make sure the diet has a balanced ratio of meat/organ/bone. Excellent resources about that and raw diets can be found at
catinfo.org
catnutrition.org
rawfedcats.org

I can only find on the 3th website the meat/organ/bone ratio.

I also been on other website and everywhere it's a different story.

The website that sells my raw food says :

50% meaty bones
20% boneless meat
20% organs
10% by products

On the dutch raw feeding forum it says :

30% meaty bones
55% boneless meat
15% organs

On rawfedcats thay say :

10 % meaty bones
80% boneless meat
10 % organs.

Their is a big difference between them.

Maybe i could do :

20 % meaty bones
65 % boneless meat
15 % organs.

Also my plan is to feed whole prey in the morning, like a one day chicken
then if i go to work i leave kibble that will last a few hours.
And in the evening again raw meat.

I already tried to give it on my other 3 cats, only 1 of them is interested.
 

John Popp

Site Supporter
I wouldn't change your raw diet recipe based on the availability of kibble. The kibble should be a balanced diet as long as it's a quality food. Perhaps the only change I would make is getting as much water as they will tolerate into the raw. This will make up for a portion of the moisture they'll be missing in their kibble.
 

Niels

Savannah Super Cat
I wouldn't change your raw diet recipe based on the availability of kibble. The kibble should be a balanced diet as long as it's a quality food. Perhaps the only change I would make is getting as much water as they will tolerate into the raw. This will make up for a portion of the moisture they'll be missing in their kibble.

Can i simply inject water into the raw food or how do you do that ?
 

John Popp

Site Supporter
Most recipes just call for a cup of water per 4-5lbs of ground raw when mixing up your supplements and vitamins. I actually just add warmer water at feeding time, a tablespoon or two, which helps get the food to room temperature quicker. Our cats also have differences in how much water they'll take on with their food, so we need to vary the quantity.
 
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