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Hepatic Microvascular Dysplasia, Liver Disease

John Popp

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Thought I would start a separate thread on this disease and treatment. There's a lot of other things involved with our boy Dooley's case and that thread is unmanageable for people needing to get an understanding of things.

The liver provides a number of functions, removing toxins from the blood supply, produces protein, breaks down old blood cells and has the central role in all metabolic processes. With Hepatic Microvascular Dysplasia, HMD, many of the smaller blood vessels on a microscopic level are either absent or haven't properly developed. These microscopic vessels are what delivers blood to the liver cells, and their absence minimizes liver function.

One of the signs which can be revealed on X-rays is the proportional size of the liver. As there is some anecdotal information that a serval has a proportionally smaller liver than domestic cats , it's not an end all identifier of disease as liver size doesn't reveal liver function. Other signs can be shortness of breath, wobbly or seizures. Often the clinical signs don't begin to appear until the cat begins to reach maturity.

Diagnosing the issue from the vet's end begins with a complete set of labs checking for low blood protein, glucose, ammonia and nitrogen levels. Liver enzymes will be reviewed, but it's possible to get a false negative if they come back normal.

Perhaps the most useful test is measuring Bile acids. These will review both bile acids and ammonia which is quite fragile and needs to be done quickly after the sample is drawn. The benefit of these tests are that you get fasting results as well as after eating. In our case we have used these tests to measure changes in diet, changes in meds and changes in food quantity.

As the clinical signs for HMD are the same as for a liver shunt, which is more common, it's a good idea to get an ultrasound. While the ultrasound isn't certain to reveal a pronounced shunt it can certainly reveal the absence of one. The only certain way to reveal a liver shunt is exploratory surgery and in the case of HMD a biopsy. One last note on liver shunts, they are simply a blood vessel bypassing the liver, and a shunt can create micro vascular dysplasia, but not the other way around.

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Treating HMD begins with a reduced and easily digestible protein diet. HMD is not a condition which can be remedied by surgery. The issue with limiting protein is there are only two natural sources for calories for our cats, fat and protein. This is where the balancing act begins as it's difficult to get all the needed calories without a little bit of carbohydrates. Fortunately cats are pretty tolerant of fats, so if you are creating a recipe with a doctors assistance, you can get something that's palatable.

For commercially available prescription diets it's best to opt for a k/d diet as opposed to one designed for liver disease. The primary reason is the l/d diets use a lot of soy and dairy based proteins which isn't exactly the easiest thing to get your cat to eat.

The medication regimen is a bit odd although speaking with RascalDad here and our IM vet we have our head wrapped around it. The 3 primary medications are all what RascalDad referred to as two-fers. They have their primary function but additionally have a secondary function which aids in liver disease. Keppra, which is given as an anticonvulsant, Amoxicillin to remove toxins and Lactulose to make sure the digestive tract is regular. All of these medications either bond with things like ammonia or metals giving them greater value in treating the disease.

We also use Denamarin for liver support and despite it not doing anything for the underlying condition, there is no harm in it's use and it does support good liver function.

Lastly, spreading meals out can reduce stress on the liver and make sure there isn't a big load of protein to digest. We've found best success with mixing the meds with food so its not so invasive for the cat, although there is a fine line quantity to make sure they eat it all. If they don't eat all the food with their medicine, there is a chance you can see neurological signs show up, opening up the risk of seizure.

Here's a quick shot of our cats daily medicine and feeding regimen.

7am Denamarin

8am Food and Meds

9am Remainder of first meal

4pm Food and Meds

5pm Remainder of second meal

11pm Denamarin

12pm Food and Meds

1am Remainder of third meal

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I'll update this over time and clean up the medication descriptions. The big thing is as dire and grim as things may seem you can make a path to cope with the disease and have a happy and healthy pet as well
 

Rafiki

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Thank you so much for this John! As Rafiki will be dealing with liver disease her entire life as well, it is really nice to have this information given to me in a calm time versus frantically searching for info when things get rough!
 

John Popp

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I agree. It was really tough trying to figure out getting the meds in without individually oral syringing each one, definitely a long process. Food has to be pretty closely measured so you don't have a battle getting them to take their medicine each meal. A real juggling and trying to get a cat that's not hungry to eat and take his meds at 1am is pretty crushing.
 
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SV Dad

Savannah Super Cat
Nice job of explaining the issue, JP!
To sort out some of the medication properties you mentioned, I will try to explain. This is human based knowledge, but so many biological functions of mammals are very similar.
Some liver dysfunctions can produce excess blood ammonia. This ammonia is toxic and when the level gets high, can produce convulsions.
This is why levetiracetam (Keppra) is used (and it is now becoming the primary anticonvulsant, at least in humans). Valproic Acid (Depakene) and Divalproex (Depakote), common anticonvulsants, cannot be used as they can increase the serum ammonia (at least in humans).
A method to decrease blood ammonia levels is to use lactulose (Enulose), which absorbs the ammonia, thus removing and lowering the toxic level. It also helps constipation and loosens up the stool (a twofer).
Other types of liver disease (i.e. chronic liver disease) have excess copper in the blood serum. In humans, we use penicillamine (Cupramine) to chelate the copper out of the blood serum. And as I researched your case I discovered amoxicillin and penicillin can do the same thing in cats. So not only can the amoxicillin go after susceptible bacteria, but it can remove excess serum copper (a twofer again).
I apologize for not being more specific, its very late in the day right now and I'm not recalling fully what I investigated for you during the acute phase of Dooley's liver issues.
I will say, being on the sidelines and reading about the various liver issues of multiple savannahs on the forums, I am rather concerned and wondering if the rate of liver disease is running above the background rate for all cats. I will defer to the breeders' experience, many of whom have bred other breeds of cats to comment if they are scratching their collective heads over this concern.
 

John Popp

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Thanks Rascal! It's important to understand the secondary functions of the medications. For instance, the lactulose may cause the stools to become too loose, but you can't completely remove it because of the other properties. Keppra may also cause some mild tremors but it's an integral part of the treatment. With the antibiotics, as I understand things there are several that perform the same function in treating liver disease.

I'm not sure there is anything to suggest liver issues are above the norm in Savannahs. If proportional liver size being smaller in servals carries any validity, higher protein levels of lean meats could be an issue. Many dressed carcasses for raw feeding or whole prey can see 75 percent or more of their calories coming from protein. A more appropriate number would be in the mid 50s as a percentage.

Dr Lisa Pierson, of catinfo.org has suggested that you can build a pretty healthy cat diet with a protein level as low as 35% of the calorie intake coming from protein. While that might seem like a stretch to get there, it's pretty much in line with a chicken thigh with all the skin and fat. Remove the skin and fat from a chicken thigh and you have a cut of meat where 65% of the calories come from protein, which is way out of bounds if your cat is having liver issues.
 

Rafiki

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I wish there was consensus out there. When Rafiki was having severe liver issues, I was instructed to feed her lean meat and to remove most of the fat. Sometimes I feel that vets are using human-based logic.....humans eat too much overall so removing more fat from the human diet is probably a good thing but it probably should not be applied to the cat diet.

What % fat range does Dr. Pierson recommend?
 

Rafiki

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Of course sometimes I remove the turkey skin because it clogs up the grinder pretty badly. The only way around this seems to be to remove the skin, cut it in pieces, freeze it and then feed it thru the grinder.
 

John Popp

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It's probably important to separate the types of liver disease. Treating a cat for Hepatic Lipidosis (Fatty Liver Disease) is quite different than treating them for Microvascular Dysplasia. Dr Sharon Center from Cornell is probably the foremost authority on feline liver disease, and there is a ton of data online in the Merck Manual. Dr Center was who our IM specialist reached out to for Dooley's care and you can pretty much read enough to make your head spin here.

http://www.merckvetmanual.com/diges.../overview-of-hepatic-disease-in-small-animals
 
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