Animal Communication

[Dantes]

I have the same problem only with pooping on the floor from my seal point himalayan....my patience is running out also. My F3 savannah is always trying to bury it....I know he doesn't like it!

Desi always ends up with a straggler following him, so I know what that's like. I feel bad for the poor guy, he cries about it. And more so because my Duma doesn't like it either (he's also an F3).

But Dante has ruined several thousand dollars worth of furniture and my favorite AG Jeans. I suppose I could replace them but not until this problem is solved one way or another.

I'll trade you my peeing Ragdoll for your pooing Himmy?

 

[Diane]

Desi always ends up with a straggler following him, so I know what that's like. I feel bad for the poor guy, he cries about it. And more so because my Duma doesn't like it either (he's also an F3).

But Dante has ruined several thousand dollars worth of furniture and my favorite AG Jeans. I suppose I could replace them but not until this problem is solved one way or another.

I'll trade you my peeing Ragdoll for your pooing Himmy?

I'm still trying to find a good home for my himmie...he needs a home with no other kitties I think. I really think he poops on the floor to get back at the other cats....he doesn't like them! He does pee in the litter box though.

 

[Kristin]

I always wondered if Kovu ever tried to talk to you out of the blue. I feel like he is such a stinker plus he thinks everyone loves him so why wouldn't you want to hear from him? If he does, please tell him to stop chewing holes in socks.

Its funny because when I talked to Nyah, she was cool, and collected. A lot like talking to Zeddie. But when I talked to Kovu I just laughed because I didn't even have to say anything to know he is a clown. He just has that incredibly silly energy. I will pay more attention for him

 

[Kristin]

Technically he peed next to the boxes, on top of paperwork, since he had "dug" himself a hole/pushed the boxes aside so that he could get right down to the sofa.

I had hope last night and even early this am that he could stay with me but as of right now I'm really hoping he will get adopted out, no matter how painful that will be.

I talked to Dante this morning, he said he went to the bathroom in the litter box. If you see him going in the litter box, make sure you praise him a lot. 2 years of bad peeing might be a tough one to break.

 

[Dantes]

I talked to Dante this morning, he said he went to the bathroom in the litter box. If you see him going in the litter box, make sure you praise him a lot. 2 years of bad peeing might be a tough one to break.

haha, well just before I went to bed last night I caught him trying to pee on the sofa again. The minute I caught him he ran like crazy, he knew what he was doing was wrong, I didn't even have to say anything. So he spent the night in the bathroom. (it's actually a bathroom with a cat door to a large closet that has two litterboxes in it, so not as torturous as it sounds, but still I'm accustomed to him being on the bed with me.) I felt terrible doing that to him but I just don't trust him anymore. The funny thing was that I thought he had just been having a good time playing with Duma just nanoseconds before he tried to pee, but maybe it was aggressive and not playing with Duma and I didn't realize it?

I agree about 2 years of bad peeing, but it doesn't seem to be a "habit" per se. He gets himself all worked up, and then suddenly it starts. Then it stops for a while. Then he gets worked up and it starts again. I can *almost* predict it happening, even if I don't know the cause, which is why my friend thinks he's bipolar.

He's free in the house today while I'm at work. Not feeling too confident about that but I can't keep him locked up 24/7. I feel guilty keeping him, I feel guilty wanting to give him away, I can't win

 

[Kristin]

No, it is very, very hard. You have to do what is right for your situation. It takes courage to rehome, which many people don't realize. I will keep talking to Dante, but I am a little confused. He definitely knows peeing on the sofa is wrong, and he told me he is going to go in the litter box, but listening and doing are 2 very different things. As they say, "you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink"

 

[Dantes]

Here is a question I just thought of re: communication: How do you know that you're talking to Dante instead of Desi or Duma?

I mean, they all physically look completely different, but they don't see themselves, well except Duma who has a habit of admiring himself in the mirror. But what if you're actually talking to Desi, who is also a Ragdoll? He has perfect litterbox habits but he is so big and fluffy that occasionally a poo will stick to him and find its way out of the box, which upsets him.

Part of the issue is that Dante was with me first. By all rights I should be rehoming Desi and Duma and keeping Dante. I feel like I'm being unfair, but it's easier to rehome one cat than two, right? I mean how could I do that to the two who are well-behaved (most of the time anyway haha).

I could so easily be a cat hoarder lol this morning the security guard at work caught this little cat that had been running around and was turning her into animal welfare, I almost said GIVE HER TO ME! because I'm afraid they'll put her down for being feral and no longer a kitten (she's probably just under a year old). But logic prevailed and I got on the elevator. Maybe Dante should stay and I'm the one that should be rehomed?

Looking forward to reading more AnimalTalk tonight (I only just started).

 

[Kristin]

Here is a question I just thought of re: communication: How do you know that you're talking to Dante instead of Desi or Duma?

I mean, they all physically look completely different, but they don't see themselves, well except Duma who has a habit of admiring himself in the mirror. But what if you're actually talking to Desi, who is also a Ragdoll? He has perfect litterbox habits but he is so big and fluffy that occasionally a poo will stick to him and find its way out of the box, which upsets him.

Part of the issue is that Dante was with me first. By all rights I should be rehoming Desi and Duma and keeping Dante. I feel like I'm being unfair, but it's easier to rehome one cat than two, right? I mean how could I do that to the two who are well-behaved (most of the time anyway haha).

I could so easily be a cat hoarder lol this morning the security guard at work caught this little cat that had been running around and was turning her into animal welfare, I almost said GIVE HER TO ME! because I'm afraid they'll put her down for being feral and no longer a kitten (she's probably just under a year old). But logic prevailed and I got on the elevator. Maybe Dante should stay and I'm the one that should be rehomed?

Looking forward to reading more AnimalTalk tonight (I only just started).

Animal Talk will help you a lot. It is very interesting, and Penelope Smith goes into "problem" animals.

I haven't seen any pictures of Desi, so I am sure I wouldn't be communicating with him. Usually, I use the eyes from the picture. I don't need a picture of Dante anymore, I just think of him and picture him in my mind and think his name. They don't see themselves, but they don't need to. It is more to connect to their soul. That is why I am able to communicate over distance, as well as with animals that aren't "on earth" anymore.

If Dante is the one misbehaving, and you feel then need to rehome, then it should be him. You aren't guaranteed that he will even stop peeing without Desi and Duma. Anytime I bring them up to him, he says he really doesn't mind them.

Penelope Smith goes into another way of communicating in her book, and I will give it a shot, but I am visiting my sister in Ottawa this week, so it will have to wait until I get home. She also goes into giving each animal a "job" or a purpose in the family. I have never thought of that before, but have unknowingly given my animals jobs. Dante definitely needs a job, and he would prefer being a protector. I would still try encouraging ways for him to protect, and verbalize it to him.

 

[Dantes]

If Dante is the one misbehaving, and you feel then need to rehome, then it should be him. You aren't guaranteed that he will even stop peeing without Desi and Duma. Anytime I bring them up to him, he says he really doesn't mind them.

I'm not 100% sure about this, but I have a feeling that *I* am the one Dante is dominating most. He also does it with Desi (he might not "mind" Desi but Desi will not be in the bed if he is there and a whole host of other dominating things), I'm not sure Duma would allow it or care much he doesn't take crap from anybody lol, but I think I am Dante's biggest problem, because he is dominant and I'm not.

I hadn't thought of rehoming Dante until a real cat lady friend of mine (she did rescue for years and recently had 9 cats in her house) said to me, he's young now at 3 years, can you imagine 10-15 years more of pee filled sofas and beds? That's what got me thinking about rehoming, since he is still young it should be easy enough to find him a good home, if I wait another a year or two it will get much less easy. While looking for a home for him I keep hoping to solve his problem so that he doesn't have to be rehomed because I am not at all set on it, I would miss him terribly.

I would PM you but I don't think I can I'll keep reading

 

[Kristin]

I'm not 100% sure about this, but I have a feeling that *I* am the one Dante is dominating most. He also does it with Desi (he might not "mind" Desi but Desi will not be in the bed if he is there and a whole host of other dominating things), I'm not sure Duma would allow it or care much he doesn't take crap from anybody lol, but I think I am Dante's biggest problem, because he is dominant and I'm not.

I hadn't thought of rehoming Dante until a real cat lady friend of mine (she did rescue for years and recently had 9 cats in her house) said to me, he's young now at 3 years, can you imagine 10-15 years more of pee filled sofas and beds? That's what got me thinking about rehoming, since he is still young it should be easy enough to find him a good home, if I wait another a year or two it will get much less easy. While looking for a home for him I keep hoping to solve his problem so that he doesn't have to be rehomed because I am not at all set on it, I would miss him terribly.

I would PM you but I don't think I can I'll keep reading

If you want to talk to me privately, my email is kristin.kindredhearts@gmail.com. I have next to no experience in rehoming, I only fostered twice with dogs, but with cats the younger the better. However, with any sort of problem you will, of course, have more difficulty.

My cat Tiger used to pee on all of our beds. Luckily it was simple enough for us to keep our doors closed, and when Zeddie came home the problem magically disappeared. I got the dominant feeling from him as well...he does remind me of my Tiger.