Fitting Pee Throughout House

[Brigitte Cowell]

Oh and while we are talking about inappropriate peeing and the need for neutering, I just wanted to mention to all reading this thread... Just because the cat is an early generation Savannah (F1-F3) and therefore nigh zero chance of fertility, the lack of fertility is NO reason to neglect to neuter your male!

They don't KNOW they are infertile! LOL! They still have the hormones, just no viable sperm...so they will still spray and fight and go crazy trying to escape your home to go looking for female cats...

 

[John Popp]

They don't KNOW they are infertile! LOL! They still have the hormones, just no viable sperm...so they will still spray and fight and go crazy trying to escape your home to go looking for female cats...

That is so strange because I had human friends who didn't realize they were fertile when they began their animal stirrings.

 

[DocMac]

Late neutering can have more of an effect on some than others. It's part of that "individuality" thing again, I've neutered stud males and two weeks later they never set a paw wrong... thankfully. But on the whole, once they are neutered, if you effectively work on breaking any habit of peeing outside the box..you can fix the problem. Just it is more work if you let it get to the situation they are peeing all over the place before you realize and neuter etc... I'm glad you resolved the Big Bubbus' issue!

I know what you mean about one whiff and you smell it all day, I swear I start imagining it in places it can't possibly be. I'll be in a shop and smell it! LOL!

I always ask my daughter us she an smell me!

 

[Spartacus]

Late neutering can have more of an effect on some than others. It's part of that "individuality" thing again, I've neutered stud males and two weeks later they never set a paw wrong... thankfully. But on the whole, once they are neutered, if you effectively work on breaking any habit of peeing outside the box..you can fix the problem. Just it is more work if you let it get to the situation they are peeing all over the place before you realize and neuter etc... I'm glad you resolved the Big Bubbus' issue!

I know what you mean about one whiff and you smell it all day, I swear I start imagining it in places it can't possibly be. I'll be in a shop and smell it! LOL!

Thanks everyone for the advice. Can anyone tell me what "late" neutering means? Like how old? We took Spartacus to the vet on Thursday. The doctor wants his shots to be done before he does the surgery. We got his 3 in 1 shot Thursday, go back in two weeks for his rabies shot, and then one week after that he will be singing soprano. At that point, he will be right at one year old. I mean, regardless we are going to do it, but I am just wondering if there is hope.

I will say, he peed on my backpack on the way to vet, but that backpack belonged to my husband in high school and he has always had cats. We have not had any house incidents since the original post. I have been cleaning with Nature's Miracle Odor Eliminator and he hasn't marked those spots again....at least not as of yet. Oh boy do I really hope having to get him nuetered three weeks from now isn't three weeks too late.

 

[admin]

Desiree', it is great that there have been no peeing incidents since the first post and hopefully that behavior will cease after neutering, but...late neutering to me means any time after 6 months...it may mean something different to others...

best to clean with anti-ickypoo as others here have advised...nature's Miracle just really does not do the trick...

 

[shelby]

I always insist that my babies are neutered or spayed by 6 months of age. I am very serious and I will not accept it any other way if they are placed as pets only. I think some do it earlier...I just want it done by 6 months...Some people have the notion that it stops growth...it does not. It does keep those hormones from kicking in and making their human parents go crazy. Both males and females at sexual maturity have the potential to be hosers...and hose they do. It is not their fault. They don't do it to make you crazy...they do it because of the marking instinct that goes with maturity. What you are experiencing is the very reason I tell people they will be sorry if they don't. We all know living with a sprayer is not pleasant. I do think you are going to have to confine him to a small area for a few weeks while the hormones are diminishing..because I don't think he will stop as soon as he is neutered. He did not get to the point of marking everything over night and he is not going to stop over night. Mom and dad are going to have to be patient and remember early neuter would have prevented this. Coming to terms with this will hopefully help you to forgive his mistakes that he has no control over at the moment. I think if you get him neutered, give him a small area that can be cleaned thoroughly and give him a little time...clean, clean, clean you will have a good chance of living through this. I think a good lesson has been learned. As far as being too late to correct this behavior..I don't think it is. Just know you can get good ideas here and the more experienced will be willing to walk you through it. Baby boy has been giving little hints that he was turning into a big boy...with lots of pee.;>) Forgive him of his sins....he will forgive you of yours.

 

[Spartacus]

I always insist that my babies are neutered or spayed by 6 months of age. I am very serious and I will not accept it any other way if they are placed as pets only. I think some do it earlier...I just want it done by 6 months...Some people have the notion that it stops growth...it does not. It does keep those hormones from kicking in and making their human parents go crazy. Both males and females at sexual maturity have the potential to be hosers...and hose they do. It is not their fault. They don't do it to make you crazy...they do it because of the marking instinct that goes with maturity. What you are experiencing is the very reason I tell people they will be sorry if they don't. We all know living with a sprayer is not pleasant. I do think you are going to have to confine him to a small area for a few weeks while the hormones are diminishing..because I don't think he will stop as soon as he is neutered. He did not get to the point of marking everything over night and he is not going to stop over night. Mom and dad are going to have to be patient and remember early neuter would have prevented this. Coming to terms with this will hopefully help you to forgive his mistakes that he has no control over at the moment. I think if you get him neutered, give him a small area that can be cleaned thoroughly and give him a little time...clean, clean, clean you will have a good chance of living through this. I think a good lesson has been learned. As far as being too late to correct this behavior..I don't think it is. Just know you can get good ideas here and the more experienced will be willing to walk you through it. Baby boy has been giving little hints that he was turning into a big boy...with lots of pee.;>) Forgive him of his sins....he will forgive you of yours.

Thanks everyone.

We know it is natural and because of that, we are absolutely not angry or upset "with" him for his incidents. We are frustrated with the situation and for thinking that because he was the only pet to ever live in our newly built home and because he is sterile that we would not spray. The stray cat we have running around tne neighborhood has helped prove this theory wrong.

We are getting him neutered ASAP and from there we will just clean, watch, and continue to learn with him until the spraying stops. He is a great cat and really catches on to things we are trying to teach him quickly, so I am positive he will eventually learn peeing anywhere other than his litter box is a no no. ....we just have to get his raging hormones out of his system first.

Thanks again.

 

[Brigitte Cowell]

You definitely aren't the first owners to think that being sterile means that they don't need to be neutered. The misconception of course is that lack of sperm means lack of the hormones driving the behavior...

I am sure that once he is neutered and once the hormones have dissipated then the behavior can be successfully changed and you will have a great pet

 

[shelby]

Thanks everyone.

We know it is natural and because of that, we are absolutely not angry or upset "with" him for his incidents. We are frustrated with the situation and for thinking that because he was the only pet to ever live in our newly built home and because he is sterile that we would not spray. The stray cat we have running around tne neighborhood has helped prove this theory wrong.

We are getting him neutered ASAP and from there we will just clean, watch, and continue to learn with him until the spraying stops. He is a great cat and really catches on to things we are trying to teach him quickly, so I am positive he will eventually learn peeing anywhere other than his litter box is a no no. ....we just have to get his raging hormones out of his system first.

Thanks again.

I think you will be very happy...once he is neutered. I also think you are good kitty parents and will work through this;>)

 

[John Popp]

You definitely aren't the first owners to think that being sterile means that they don't need to be neutered. The misconception of course is that lack of sperm means lack of the hormones driving the behavior...

I am sure that once he is neutered and once the hormones have dissipated then the behavior can be successfully changed and you will have a great pet

Just because they're shooting blanks doesn't mean they aren't still pulling the trigger.

Also, do they actually not have sperm or is it the sperm they do have isn't viable?