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[Igor]

Telazol is a relative of ketamine so the same dangers/risks as that drug. I am simply not comfortable with this, in comparison to Domitor (mentioned above) which has a reversal agent hence less risk.

We have homed one Savannah that was neutered with telazol against the breeder's wishes (the owner did not listen). He was overdosed and was gone for some minutes while they brought him back with CPR. He is now blind from that simple neuter. It took us three tries to find the right adoptive home for that poor sweet boy.

Poor little guy... How did they overdose him??

 

[Brigitte Cowell]

Poor little guy... How did they overdose him??

It's relatively "easy" to do. Injectable anesthetics are dosed by weight of a cat, and it assumes a certain percentage of the mass of the cat is fat. Fat absorbs these anesthetics, hence they calculate with X% being absorbed how much needs to be given. If a cat is of a lean build with less fat, then that percentage of the dose is NOT absorbed into fat and hence is in circulation along with the rest of the anesthetic, hence there is too much anesthetic in circulation at once and the cat has an overdose situation.

With an inhalable anesthetic, the effects can be reversed by removing the mask. With domitor (dexdomitor) it can be reversed by injection of a reversal agent. With ketamine (and its relative telazol) all that can be done is to give CPR until the body can process the anesthetic out of the system...

 

[Igor]

It's relatively "easy" to do. Injectable anesthetics are dosed by weight of a cat, and it assumes a certain percentage of the mass of the cat is fat. Fat absorbs these anesthetics, hence they calculate with X% being absorbed how much needs to be given. If a cat is of a lean build with less fat, then that percentage of the dose is NOT absorbed into fat and hence is in circulation along with the rest of the anesthetic, hence there is too much anesthetic in circulation at once and the cat has an overdose situation.

With an inhalable anesthetic, the effects can be reversed by removing the mask. With domitor (dexdomitor) it can be reversed by injection of a reversal agent. With ketamine (and its relative telazol) all that can be done is to give CPR until the body can process the anesthetic out of the system...

Noo. At least he found a nice home.. These kind of instances make me question everything a veterinarian recommends. Mostly because SVs are not like regular cats...

Surgery went well. He was a little woozy yesterday but today he's back to his old self even though he lost his marbles.

Vet gave me antibiotics for a week. Is the dosage okay?

 

[Brigitte Cowell]

I've never been given antibiotics for a cat after neuter, was there a reason for this? Was there an indication infection was there or is this prophylactic, do you know? The dosage seems fine, I just question why the cat needs it.

Savannahs are very like other domestic cats in terms of their veterinary care. The same issue for ketamine exists for other lean build cat breeds like Orientals and Abyssinians. My vet won't use ketamine on any cat.

 

[Patti]

Good question - what are the antibiotics for?

 

[Igor]

Good question - what are the antibiotics for?

Like Brigitte said, it's just a prophylactic measure. Vet said to prevent an infection, just in case. I don't want to upset his stomach again.. he already had problems with his tummy. Are these antibiotics not needed? His wound is tiny, not red or inflamed. He's back to his old self. Do you guys think I should I stop the antibiotics?

 

[Patti]

It depends on what the antibiotics are for - as Brigitte said, it's not standard practice to give antibiotics after a neuter unless there is another reason - I would check with your vet if you're unsure why they were prescribed.

 

[Igor]

It depends on what the antibiotics are for - as Brigitte said, it's not standard practice to give antibiotics after a neuter unless there is another reason - I would check with your vet if you're unsure why they were prescribed.

I'm 100% why they were prescribed. To prevent an infection. I asked multiple people in the office and they all said I should get the antibiotics and that it is pretty standard after a neuter to prevent an infection. Were they just trying to sell me antibiotics? Just to make a few dollars..? The whole bottle cost me $45.

 

[Brigitte Cowell]

I'm 100% why they were prescribed. To prevent an infection. I asked multiple people in the office and they all said I should get the antibiotics and that it is pretty standard after a neuter to prevent an infection. Were they just trying to sell me antibiotics? Just to make a few dollars..? The whole bottle cost me $45.

I don't know. It is not standard after a neuter where my cats go, but maybe your vet hospital has had a rash of infections after procedures hence recommends it? I'm not a fan of giving antibiotics when not needed as yes they can upset their tummies. If you continue the antibiotics I highly recommend giving a good probiotic along with it to help replenish the good bacteria in his gut. I like Proviable and Probios but know many are now recommending S. boulardii which is what is in Florastor for humans.

 

[Patti]

Were they just trying to sell me antibiotics? Just to make a few dollars..?

Good question - I have never had antibiotics prescribed after a routine neuter and have gone to several different veterinarians over the past four decades in two different states, so not really sure why your vet felt it was necessary.