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Shock collars for cats

Connie P.

Savannah Super Cat
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I like this brand the best for many reasons, the biggest is that they use a solvent-free extraction method. I have the 250mg strength bottle, and give my 8lb f2 six (6) drops in food.

The bitter apple spray mentioned by another poster is a good idea - you’d want to check that it isn’t skin irritating before using it on your arms.

What kind of toys do you use for play? I’d stick to wand toys that have something on a string attached to a wand. That way, your arms/hands won’t be as accessible when he gets aggressive.

Is he lovey at all? Can you pet him?
He is very loving most of the time. He just gets agitated and becomes aggressive and bites. Thank you for suggesting the CBD oil.
I only thought of a shock collar; because I have had young horses that would kick their stall until they did damage to their legs. When they kicked the stall, I could activate the shock collar. It only took a few times for the kicking their stall wall to stop. It isn’t a large shock. It is actually very little. I tried it on myself before them. It is more the surprise of something negative when they kicked the stall without any person being around. Therefore, they did not associate the shock with the person. They just associated it with kicking the stall. He is in my lap in the bed where he has been since I brought him home. He is a great snuggle buddy at night.
 

Brigitte Cowell

Moderator
Staff member
Yes, he is neutered and I have had him since he was 12 weeks old. He is fed 3 or more times a day and anytime he acts hungry. He is eating Darwin’s raw and gets all he wants. I would use the collar by activating it immediately when he attacks aggressively and bites. I would rather use a shock collar ; hopefully only a few times and he would understand, rather than him being place in an enclosure outside for the rest of his life. I have to stop it somehow, and nothing recommended by the breeder is working. He has even attacked her in the night while she is in bed asleep.


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The breeder sold a kitten that was attacking her? In that case, had you persuaded her that you knew how to work with this issue or were you both just hoping he'd grow out of this? I would have had serious concerns purchasing a kitten with that disclosure!!

As to a shock collar, I would highly doubt that this would do anything other than disturbing your cat, destroying any bond of affection between animal and owner and possibly making him more distressed and hence more aggressive.

Can you tell us what you have tried, and what the breeder has recommended?
 

Brigitte Cowell

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Staff member
I would love to talk to a behaviorist. Yes, we have tried all the things you suggested that our breeder has already suggested. Can you tell me how to get in touch with a behaviorist? My Mom was on the phone yesterday not even touching him. He came running around the corner, jumped on the couch, sliced her arm open and ran. He knows he is doing something bad.


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Have you any other pets? That sounds to me like he is in crazy kitten play mode and no other pet (cat or dog) to wrestle with so is turning to humans for play...
Actually the time out is the only thing that has let him calm down and stop attacking. This is not play biting I am talking about. It is aggressive, ears back, mad about who knows what attacking. I have had cats and kittens my entire life, and this is my second Savannah. He is already over 15 lbs. at 6 months old. I have to get this stopped before he gets any bigger. I would never be abusive to any animal, but when you already have 4 bandaids on your arms and you are dripping blood from a new bite, you do want to pick him up and smack his bottom.
Where is your first Savannah? Do they play with him... or do you mean you had another Savannah previously?
 

Connie P.

Savannah Super Cat
Have you any other pets? That sounds to me like he is in crazy kitten play mode and no other pet (cat or dog) to wrestle with so is turning to humans for play...

Where is your first Savannah? Do they play with him... or do you mean you had another Savannah previously?
My first Savannah was killed in an accident; so he is currently alone. However, I am looking for a playmate for him.
 

Connie P.

Savannah Super Cat
And that is my point... You were talking about putting a shock collar on a 5 month old kitten or putting him outside for the rest of his life. Think about how that sounds to those of us who would never do such a thing. I know how I would feel if one of my kitten buyers wanted to do this...I would want my kitten back.

Talk to Marilyn - I'm sure she can help as long as you listen to her advice and follow what she says.

As for the forum - thank you for your donation. It is not difficult to navigate and there is a user manual to help... Or ask for help and I will try to guide you.


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Connie P.

Savannah Super Cat
I understand how you would have thought, “What the hell is she thinking?” Please know he is a very well cared for and loved boy. I was just upset over the bites. They aren’t love bites as you can see from the pictures I posted. Thank you for setting me straight on the shock collar. I would have bought it and never activated it anyway!
 

Rafiki

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A cfew questions:

Was he an only kitten? It seems to me that he may not have been taught boundaries. Momma cat and siblings usually teach this.

Is it primarily your mom that gets bit or both of you?

Is there any pattern? A particular time or location or anything that you can think of?

How much play time is he getting?
 

Moggieslegacy

Savannah Super Cat
As someone who is currently living with a much smaller but generally rambunctious F6 kitten who usually interacts with lovely gentle velvet paws, until he gets carried away and forgets, and who regularly makes me bleed and has come close to seriously injuring me, I sympathize with your predicament and can only imagine how difficult it would be dealing with this phase if he was twice the size.

In my situation the scratching tends to happen when he really wants to play and builds up too much of a head of steam before I have a chance to release that a bit with a wand toy or piece of balled up paper or whatever... The biting seems to start as affectionate licking and then progresses to chewing and biting and grabbing and bunny kicking my hand at 3 in the morning.... When he starts licking, chewing and then biting I have tried hissing, blowing in his face, sticking my finger into his mouth, removing him from my lap or bed, or just getting up and removing myself. I don't see where any of that has worked, but I do think he is starting to outgrow this. Maybe...

What does seem it might help, is I notice he is less crazy and inappropriate after I spend quieter time with him one on one, exploring our world, so he learns to listen to my cues and see me as more than a fun moving object to be pounced on. (which is how he basically sees everything) Expanding on this idea, I also noticed that clicker training my older F7 to do "tricks" really helped build a basic framework of understanding and shared communication between us. So I taught him the rather useless skill of jumping through my arms held in a circle, touching his nose to a pencil where ever I held it, and sitting. But then those same suggestions are really useful when we go for walks and I want to prevent his leash from tangling. Which then seemed to lead him to generally be quicker to understand my human suggestions and gestures mean something and might be worth listening to and co-operating with. So I am thinking I need to do more one on one basic training with the little rambunctious one, so he better understands when I yell Owwie it isn't just a fun part of the crazy wild game... So maybe building better communication using clicker training would be a place to start?
 
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