Traumatized Savannah f5

[MYNXX]

I'm not sure where you got that from, but IMHO you should continue to talk to her calmly as much as possible, even reading aloud if nothing else, so that she continues to get used to your voice.

I confused bridgets point about giving her treats and bringing them closer each time, while "sitting there quietly".... with what i was talking about

 

[Kristin]

If you are feeding cooked meat you will want to make sure you are supplementing it as cooking it will degrade the natural nutrients found in the meat. Also, keep in mind that protein isn't the only thing found in meat. It also consists of water, fat, etc, which confuses a lot of people (vets included). I know that the raw meat I feed my cats is under 20% protein, whereas most kibbles are 25-30% protein. Also, sweet potatoes are very sugary for a cat

Have the kidney issues gone away since cooking the meat? Also, you shouldn't have to worry about worms etc if you freeze your meat. Most people deworm a few times a year to make sure nothing sneaks in there, but a cat's digestive track is built to handle such issues when it is in a healthy state. If you are making your own food you would also want to include organs such as heart and liver.

Is there anything else like dehydration that could have contributed to the kidney issues? Vets often don't know a lot about raw feeding, and tend to blame it when it isn't necessarily the culprit. There is a great Facebook group called Cats Completely Raw and Proud that has some great info and may be able to help you as well.

 

[MYNXX]

If you are feeding cooked meat you will want to make sure you are supplementing it as cooking it will degrade the natural nutrients found in the meat. Also, keep in mind that protein isn't the only thing found in meat. It also consists of water, fat, etc, which confuses a lot of people (vets included). I know that the raw meat I feed my cats is under 20% protein, whereas most kibbles are 25-30% protein. Also, sweet potatoes are very sugary for a cat

Have the kidney issues gone away since cooking the meat? Also, you shouldn't have to worry about worms etc if you freeze your meat. Most people deworm a few times a year to make sure nothing sneaks in there, but a cat's digestive track is built to handle such issues when it is in a healthy state. If you are making your own food you would also want to include organs such as heart and liver.

Is there anything else like dehydration that could have contributed to the kidney issues? Vets often don't know a lot about raw feeding, and tend to blame it when it isn't necessarily the culprit. There is a great Facebook group called Cats Completely Raw and Proud that has some great info and may be able to help you as well.

- The kidney issue was precautionary, but i am supposed to do a fecal test soon..... They were living on friskies when I got them so I blame that. She drinks a cup of water a day,, or did before the vet...He doesn't much, but they love the stock from cooking the chicken so that gets him to drink.. I supplement everything, raw, or cooked... If raw meat had anything to do with worms it must be because i got cheap meat at the asian market which I will never do again, or because i left it out too long? I wasn't super on top of that... can't say one way or the other...

When I make my own raw mix - it is a whole chicken, beef liver, beef heart, and supplements.... Before was all chicken,, starting the chicken beef mix as of today... looks like i'll be alternating raw and cooked till this cooked chicken is gone

 

[MYNXX]

Is this ok or is it the wrong 3-6 ratio for raw meat?

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[MYNXX]

Is this ok or is it the wrong 3-6 ratio for raw meat?

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NVM! I think I found one for cats specifically....

 

[Patti]

Is this ok or is it the wrong 3-6 ratio for raw meat?

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I'm not sure what you are asking - if this is the only thing you are supplementing with then it is definitely not okay. I use Mazuri supplements, but anything equivalent would work: http://www.mazuri.com/exoticfeline.aspx

 

[MYNXX]

I'm not sure what you are asking - if this is the only thing you are supplementing with then it is definitely not okay. I use Mazuri supplements, but anything equivalent would work: http://www.mazuri.com/exoticfeline.aspx

I use Alnutrin as previously stated...
http://www.knowwhatyoufeed.com/alnutrin_for_meat.html

What do you think about just doing this? er 5 lbs meat...

• 8 to 16 oz water, use 16 oz if your cats like it soupier, 8 oz if they like it firmer
• 4 raw egg yolks
• 4000 mg taurine
• 4000 mg wild salmon or wild caught small fish oil
• 800 IU Vitamin E (use dry form)
• 200 mg Vitamin B Complex
• 1 ½ tsp Lite Iodized Salt

personally I would add coral calcium too, but not sure what else is really important.

The difference in ours was mainly vitamin C, K, and a couple others I am not aware of...

 

[Patti]

I missed that. Alnutrin is fine if you feed whole prey and I wouldn't add any additional calcium. However if you are feeding slab meat (removing the bones) I would use the Alnutrin with calcium. I don't understand the above though - are you thinking of adding this in addition to the Alnutrin or in addition to?

 

[Rafiki]

Patti, I think that the recipe is one that I have seen on the internet for how to supplement meat using human grade vitamins and minerals instead of using the prepared nutrients like Mazuri. As you stated, it does not have calcium listed so it would not be complete unless the bones were ground as well.

 

[Kristin]

The meat should have all of the nutrients and vitamins in it, so supplementation isn't necessary unless you aren't planning on balancing the meat itself out (or cooking it). If you are supplementing the meat, just make sure you don't go into vitamin toxicity levels.