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John Popp
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I would wait until you no longer value your hanging tackle.
Yes, you do have that issue, LOL!
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Sunny
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Just a quick note regarding the salmon and chicken. Give them the cooked portion without any seasoning or added flavor and if you don't freeze the chicken and then thaw (I would do it with beef too), there's a bigger chance of an upset tummy from bacteria. Fiber and probiotics supplements (ahem, taurine!!) help calm their digestive system.
Fixing the stool issue in my house was freezing all meats first to kill bacteria from processing, no matter how organic, it's flash frozen only and that does an incomplete job. Bravo to you for going to extra mile to watch Louie's stool for normality and it will be the first key to health problems related to diet or infection.
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Louie'sDad
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Thanks.
Yup, the chicken was frozen, and the salmon was grilled with only salt and pepper.
Here's the scoop on the ProZyme Feline. Probably snake oil:
http://www.prnpharmacal.com/pdfs/ProZymeFeline-PS.pdf
Sunny
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That's actually a really good source of taurine, but not much else but trace elements of Omega-3 enzymes and a poor source of straight Omega-3 fatty acids. You might want to check in on this thread for some ideas, I made my $.02 contribution a few minutes ago.
There's no single supplement that's going to satisfy 100% nutritional need and the joys of ownership is finding the combination that works best.
Can't there just be a Centrum for Cats that we grind up and call it done?
http://www.savannahcatchat.com/threads/which-vitamins-suppliments-for-food-where-to-buy.2325
There's no single supplement that's going to satisfy 100% nutritional need and the joys of ownership is finding the combination that works best.
Can't there just be a Centrum for Cats that we grind up and call it done?
http://www.savannahcatchat.com/threads/which-vitamins-suppliments-for-food-where-to-buy.2325
John Popp
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BTW, if anyone is using brewers yeast with their raw recipe I'd like to know how much they are adding. There seems to be lots of mentions of it, but no quantities mentioned. I know it's used in Fortflora despite Purina never coming right out and saying so, and a good source of vitamin b.
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Louie'sDad
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I posted this in the wrong thread. I'll put it here as well, for those who didn't see it:
"EVO publishes their foods' nutritional/guaranteed analyses, and for taurine they are 0.25%/0.20%. Taurine is an amino acid found in animal protein, and since cats eat mostly animal protein, then it stands to reason that the taurine content would be sufficient if feeding a high quality product. Since processing apparently reduces taurine content, then wouldn't a high quality food be supplemented with the stuff? Why would a supplement be needed, unless feeding with low quality food? Are there "RDA's" established for animals, and since taurine is an essential amino acid for cats, shouldn't the "RDA" be known?"
"EVO publishes their foods' nutritional/guaranteed analyses, and for taurine they are 0.25%/0.20%. Taurine is an amino acid found in animal protein, and since cats eat mostly animal protein, then it stands to reason that the taurine content would be sufficient if feeding a high quality product. Since processing apparently reduces taurine content, then wouldn't a high quality food be supplemented with the stuff? Why would a supplement be needed, unless feeding with low quality food? Are there "RDA's" established for animals, and since taurine is an essential amino acid for cats, shouldn't the "RDA" be known?"
Some of us work with a hypothesis that cats of exotic-origin may need a higher taurine level than others... this is based on just one study done on ALCs in a zoo which showed a higher need for taurine. Over the years there has been some anecdotal evidence from some breeders that it is essential in cat pregnancy to ensure healthy babies. As taurine is not only essential for heart function but many other processes, and it is water-soluble and I have been told by a number of veterinary specialists that there is no real overdosing as they will excrete excess (if you went completely overboard you might cause intestinal upset I suppose), it makes sense to add a little extra. I started doing this way back when my first Savannah was diagnosed with a heart valve defect (rare in Savannahs like any cat breed)... and his cardiologist recommended supplementing with 500mg per day.