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F3 Behavioral Problems

You say he is a year old, right? Maybe he as just never learned "manners" as a baby. As kittens, we need to "scruff" our kittens in certain instances to teach then what behaviors ARE and AREN'T appropriate,such as biting hands, sneak body attack, grabbing food from us, etc. sounds like he may have missed his window in developing these social skills that make human interaction fun. Some can learn at an older age, but others are too stubborn and bull-headed. Good luck. Marilyn can help, in great depth, I assure you. I can "guilt" mine into behaving.

Thank you for your reply. Yes, he is still young. You could be right on his manners. I certainly appreciate what she did teach him as he is a good eater, fairly social (compared to some cats I read about) and has great litter box manners. I believe he has been through a lot of change in his short year, moving several times and when he was with her she was often out, either working or out socially so he was probably alone a lot. I think the stalking part comes from what she used to do with him and i'm not super worried, he doesn't always look at me like prey! He certainly can be stubborn but also affectionate, on his terms. I think most of these behaviors occur when he wants to play and is mad that we are not, or when he's not in the mood for petting and so scratches or bites.

We are slowly learning each other's ways. I'm trying the distraction technique someone suggested when he's fixated on something bad, instead of merely scolding him as that only makes him want to do it more. He keeps eating my plants so they have moved outside or elsewhere. I know it must be hard in a condo all the time. Growing up, my cat was indoor/outdoor and I feel bad for this guy but where we are and from what I've read, I wouldn't want to let him out. I never thought having a cat would be this hard but i'm sure at some point it then becomes rewarding.
 
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DocMac

Guest
I tell my new kittens' parents, patience, patience, patience. When we send them out, they are socialized, yes, but to us...our house, our bed, our smells. They will "try" the new people to see if any rules have changed and what is acceptable in the new environment (similar to children testing the substitute teacher). They're afraid, miss their friends, and have to wait an extra two hours to eat in this new place! Their routine is all messed up!
It just takes awhile to adjust to each other. Remember, Savannahs take a couple years to mature and are learning and developing the entire time. Don't give up. You will be missing the best friend you'd ever want. Once your Savannah has you trained, that is.
 

Brigitte Cowell

Moderator
Staff member
I think a lot of that behavior you are finding troublesome is boredom on his part. Is he an only cat now? If both of you are working late he's going stir crazy! Savannahs are a high energy and interactive breed...so people working long hours with no time to play and no other kitty companion to bounce off is a recipe for disaster imho.
 

Lori Greer

Cahaba Cats
Hi, i'm really new to this and I feel for you npsac. I have recently adopted an F4 savannah and I am experiencing similar problems. This forum is helping me to understand him a bit better but i'm still not convinced we are the right home for him. Our cat is not a rescue, he came from a friend of a friend who developed allergies to him and could not keep him. He is just over a year old.


I apologize for jumping on to your chat page and contributing my issues. Your post sounded so like me that I couldn't help it. I don't know what to do and like you, at times i'm scared of him.

Is he neutered? Sorry if I missed it, but that is the first thing that needs to be checked off the list of possible causes. :)
 
Thank you all so much for your input. To answer your questions, yes he is neutered. He is 1 year and about 3 months old. I'm not sure what his early situation was like - how old when first adopted, etc. The woman we adopted him from had him since he was a kitten. He was her only animal so he has mostly been alone thus far. He grew up there in a studio apartment and I believe she was out quite a bit.

As for us, we tend to be away from 7:30am - 5pm during the week so not crazy hours. We're trying play times right when home from work and also later at night. Do Savannahs typically need lots of play time for their whole lives, or is it mainly when they're young and then they mellow out a bit? We're good now but just trying to think about the future once we have kids of our own and want to be fair to the animal. I'm also slightly concerned about the future as I can't get a clear answer on whether Savannahs can be brought into New Zealand. It looks like no which is a scary thought. That is where i'm from and we are not sure if we will stay in the US or go back to NZ at some point. We are most definitely staying here for now, but not sure if/when that could change. I'm the kind of person who attaches to pets so i'd hate to have to give one up and not be able to bring it with me :(
 

Brigitte Cowell

Moderator
Staff member
I have not found my Savannahs to grow up too much, my almost 12 year old F2 still needs quite a bit of play. Not quite as much as when he was a crazy kitten but not nearly as sedate as most adult domestic cats.

I'm trying to remember what I know about the NZ situation, I know they used to allow F4 and further, but not sure if they followed Australia with the ban on all Savannahs or not. I'm Australian, and owning Savannahs is a big reason that I can never move home :-(
 

SpartacusTheSavannahCat

Savannah Kitten
I am reading some of the problems people are having with their F3's & F4's. In all these cases, these cats are not getting enough play time. I researched Savannah's before I adopted mine. I was on a list for 3 yrs as I really wanted a male. Usually the litters are females only. I chose an F3 as I assumed they would not be as demanding as an F1 or F2. However some F3's can be as demanding as the early generations. My boy Spartacus is very demanding and requires a lot of attention. I was ready for this & devote a lot of time to him. Kind of like having a toddler. He sleeps when we do (we keep him continued in our master bedroom/bathroom at night) He has a Cat Tower which he has the option of sleeping in whenever he wants. He chooses however to sleep with us. Then every day I put him on his harness & take him for a 2-3 hr walk. On Coke or rainy days, I play fetch with him or use a toy feather wand (he must never be left alone with feather wand bc he will eat the feathers. He does have the run of the rest of the house during day time but it has to be babyproofed.He also has plenty of litterboxes,cat towers and scratching posts. These cats need a lot of stimuli! Your breeder should have told you that. Also these cats are hyper allergenic so I do not believe the story of the guy developing allergies. My friends with allergies are not bothered by Spartacus. Nor am I. I had a Siamese for 24 1/2yrs and I had allergies. I would never give up my animals due to allergy...ridiculous!
When he reaches up, it is a sign he wants to be picked up...I think he thinks he is a baby. He is only 9lbs at 6 mos old and will definitely get bigger....but I will always pick him up when he wants it. At times, if you act like prey, he will treat you like prey so it is not a good idea to play hide & seek! If he gets into nibbling mode, you must pick him up by the scruff of the neck & firmly say NO. Replace your arm with a teddy bear & let them nibble on that. (Make sure it doesn't have parts that can be easily ripped off & ingested). My kitty is teething (he has double fangs right now) so I give a teether chew toy. If your kitty continues to nibble on your arm or sweater...the make sure you pick up by scruff of neck and put him in a room by himself for time out. These cats are extremely socialable so they will not like time out. He will learn that the behaviour will not be tolerated. All cats need play time but Savannah's need 3 times the play time & will give back 3 times the love. Everyone loves my boy. He is our family & we love him.
 

DumaLove

Site Supporter
Staff member
Also these cats are hyper allergenic so I do not believe the story of the guy developing allergies. My friends with allergies are not bothered by Spartacus. Nor am I. I had a Siamese for 24 1/2yrs and I had allergies.
Savannahs are neither "hyper allergenic" as you say, nor are they hypoallergenic. That is a myth. It depends completely on the person AND the cat. My BF has never been allergic to any animal in his life, but he is allergic to one of my F6's.
 

NikkiA

Site Supporter
I'm pretty darn allergic to our F4 Mickey Blue Eyes. Sneezing, red eyes, itching and all. I am less allergic to him than I am to some friend's cats, but I still react.

It depends on the individual cat and the individual human.

For what it is worth, I did not know I had cat allergies before bringing cats home, and I had worked for a vet for 4 years in high school. Luckily, my boys will tolerate bath time, which helps keep my individual allergies in check.
 
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