Fertility Testing Before Neutering

[Trish Allearz]

Hey John, if aesthetics worry you, there's always neuticles for the cherished pet. http://www.neuticles.com/natural.php

I have pictures of a Sphynx before and after neuticles saved somewhere on my hard drive...

 

[John Popp]

Hey John, if aesthetics worry you, there's always neuticles for the cherished pet. http://www.neuticles.com/natural.php

I am currently intact but there are always threats from my wife. Thanks for the reference should her thinly veiled threats become a reality.

 

[ambiente18]

First let me say thank you to everyone who replied. You're experience and advice means a lot to me and has been really informative and lead to some of the funniest Forum related quips and reply's I've seen in a LONG time!!! (no pun intended, ok maybe a little bit intended lol)

The process from what you guys have been describing does seem quite invasive and I truly don't believe a cat or dog (or even a human for that matter to a lesser degree lol) should ever be put under unless absolutely necessary, such as for surgeries. I'm pretty sure I read that there had been 2 documented F3's that were fertile and maybe a dozen or so F4's. But I would think you guys would know about them if they were more than just rumor, so maybe what I read was just hearsay or later proven to be untrue such as maybe sharing living quarters with a fertile male of different gen etc. I agree with you guys, he definitely needs to be snipped at this point before he starts exhibiting other behaviors associated with an intact male. Until now it's just the yowling, but this evening he started doing the face/cheek rubbing onto inanimate objects and other less desirable behaviors can't be too far away if I wait much longer and I certainly don't want to get to that point.

As for why I would think he may be fertile? I guess realistically there's nothing that would make me think that he, more so than any other F3 would be, probably just wishful thinking. I love this little guy, he's got beautiful "Type" from everything I've learned and more importantly carries such an amazing personality that I'd love to see him be able to pass on his traits if possible.

Brigitte, the little guy is hung like a Clydesdale in relation to his size, er, I mean, well developed? So at least from what you wrote about being well developed, yeah I think he has that covered. Excuse the picture, I swear it's science and not pornographic hahahha

I think I'm going to talk to my vet tomorrow and ask what he says. He used to own a Serval and is very aware of Savannahs and their idiosyncrasies. But I don't want to do anything that could be harmful to Shelby, even if it's with good intention.

Patti, That's a great idea to contact Dr. Murphy to see if he wants them in order to be able to help understand SV's a little more. If he's interested, then I'll probably do that if it could help us understand SV's biological underpinnings better.

Paige, yeah time has FLOWN BY!!!! OMG, I can't believe Shelby's almost a year old already! Ideally I wanted to do it when he was about 7-9 months, but they went by so fast, I blinked and they had passed already.

John, Rascaldad and Deborah, OMG you guys are hilarious! I vote John SVCC comedian of the year and we're only in February, can't wait to see what the rest of the year has in store hahaha

Thanks again for your guys replies. SVCC THE BEST sv related site on the web!

I understand you very well...contain a male cat interesting, but difficult... Even more difficult to understand, that the male cat is not a prolific man be strong and all will be ok

 

[Sunny]

This thread makes me sad. I know exactly what you are thinking and feeling. My boys were both neutered before I adopted them. If I had an opportunity to see Anubis' personality those first few months of cat parenthood, I would have chosen to keep him intact.

I tell him but he doesn't understand me, "A good Nub is hard to find" meaning cats like him are rare. It sucks there will be no kittens. He's going on 5 years in April and acts like a good momma cat for Isis that I simply need to make every day count and keep reminding him!

 

[ScottKelly911]

This thread makes me sad. I know exactly what you are thinking and feeling. My boys were both neutered before I adopted them. If I had an opportunity to see Anubis' personality those first few months of cat parenthood, I would have chosen to keep him intact.

I tell him but he doesn't understand me, "A good Nub is hard to find" meaning cats like him are rare. It sucks there will be no kittens. He's going on 5 years in April and acts like a good momma cat for Isis that I simply need to make every day count and keep reminding him!

Sunny, very heartfelt and eloquently put. Thanks for understanding

 

[shelby]

I think one of the things you might be missing is.....the neutered male is a happy go lucky boy that is not torn between their love for you as the human parent and their love of a female in heat. I know that the female in heat will win out no matter how much that boy loved you prior to reaching sexual maturity. I will also say that intact males can be a holy terror. Not only will they spray everything in your house, they have been known to attack a human that they see as a threat if there is a female in heat...anywhere around them. Just think long and hard about what you will be able to accept if left intact. You know they are sweet now. If you decide to keep him intact....remember when the spraying or acting out happens...IT IS NOT HIS FAULT. Be careful what you wish for.

 

[Brigitte Cowell]

Completely correct, Shelby, the personality you are loving Sunny is partly BECAUSE of the neuter. This has allowed your Savannah male to be a good pet.

My stud Zak is a very loving Savannah male and like his greatgrandfather Kashka, I so look forward to the day he can be neutered and be a loving housepet. BUT his every waking moment is prioritized for available female cats... he cries for them, he is always looking for them. Although he doesn't spray very much his urine reeks. As a kitten he was the most loving of boys, a great housepet, but as he came to sexual maturity you could see his focus changing. Those hormones have a STRONG effect on our cats.

And as Shelby notes, the unpredictability of an intact male cat is dangerous. Many a person has ended up with serious injury from a split-second change in behavior from a stud male.

 

[Coolcat]

I was just saying today to Mrs CC i wish they had re-palacement ball for when triton get done,and here they are.I will do this if its safe,anyone done or know of anyone doing it.

 

[Brigitte Cowell]

Maybe it's being a girl, but I don't see the point. It's kinda like silicon boobs I guess, if it is important to you then so be it, but even when I was flat-chested I never felt that need. Why introduce a "foreign body" if it isn't necessary? For some people it can indeed be necessary for themselves and that is good that they have the option. Just to do it to a pet, how do you know they WANT it?

We humans are guilty of transferring our own feelings onto our pets. We assume that how we'd feel is how they feel. For example, loss of a limb is a MAJOR major thing for a human, we would expect therapy and time to really deal with it...yet in a cat they are usually up and racing about before you know it. It doesn't seem to impact them, they adjust and deal with it and don't seem to sit there getting depressed about it. So I suspect that you men take this more seriously than the cat does...

 

[Coolcat]

Maybe it's being a girl, but I don't see the point. It's kinda like silicon boobs I guess, if it is important to you then so be it, but even when I was flat-chested I never felt that need. Why introduce a "foreign body" if it isn't necessary? For some people it can indeed be necessary for themselves and that is good that they have the option. Just to do it to a pet, how do you know they WANT it?

We humans are guilty of transferring our own feelings onto our pets. We assume that how we'd feel is how they feel. For example, loss of a limb is a MAJOR major thing for a human, we would expect therapy and time to really deal with it...yet in a cat they are usually up and racing about before you know it. It doesn't seem to impact them, they adjust and deal with it and don't seem to sit there getting depressed about it. So I suspect that you men take this more seriously than the cat does...

Oh balls...LOL