No, TICA registers them as Chausies... exactly the same as any other breed though, until they are SBT they are registered in the Foundation Registry, not the Stud Book Registry.
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Generation Question?
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There was a well respected Chausie breeder that posted on this site, I don't remember his name, but I just read that information on his website. It was quite lengthy. I wasn't referring to how they are registered, just referred to as by their breeders or owners.
There may be breeders that do that, just like there are apparently breeders that give "half-generations" to their cats. Some Bengal breeders will say the same, but others will call them all Bengals as that is what their registration certificates call them. You are of course welcome to call them anything if it is your cat ;-)
I also personally think it dangerous to term the cats that are not SBT as anything but the breed, by calling them hybrids and the SBTs the breed you encourage negative legislation against those early generations that also will catch the outcrossed cats potentially.
That is a good point, I just find it can be confusing and can cause issues.
I totally agree, B...Savannahs are savannahs, although the SBT's are the only cats that can be shown...
Exactly, the code matters for showing... but I do not regard Nadiya or Baz less of a Savannah than Zari just because they have a C registration code rather than SBT! Just they can't be shown (although they were shown when we were in ANB class before advancement)...
ginamarie1221
Savannah Super Cat
I hope I didn't create a stir with this question! As a person who is new to the SV community, this can be confusing trying to understand how the generation thing works.
I've seen my breeder also refer to the kittens of the chausie/f2 savannah as F3a. It could very well be ME who is misunderstanding something here
Is F2.5 maybe a different way of labelling a F3a?
Can someone break this down into %'s for me? I might be able to understand a little better. So here's what I'm trying to understand:
Father = F3 Chausie (I understand fertility is rare in an F3 generation male chausie?)
Mother= F2 Savannah (25% serval blood, correct?)
So, kittens would = 12.5% serval, ??? Jungle cat, ??? domestic cat
Leave it to a newbie to ask all of this! Sorry
On another note, I completely trust and respect the breeder I'm working with and they've been nothing but great, so I hope I didn't paint a bad picture!!!
Gina
I've seen my breeder also refer to the kittens of the chausie/f2 savannah as F3a. It could very well be ME who is misunderstanding something here
Is F2.5 maybe a different way of labelling a F3a?Can someone break this down into %'s for me? I might be able to understand a little better. So here's what I'm trying to understand:
Father = F3 Chausie (I understand fertility is rare in an F3 generation male chausie?)
Mother= F2 Savannah (25% serval blood, correct?)
So, kittens would = 12.5% serval, ??? Jungle cat, ??? domestic cat
Leave it to a newbie to ask all of this! Sorry
On another note, I completely trust and respect the breeder I'm working with and they've been nothing but great, so I hope I didn't paint a bad picture!!!
Gina
F3A is terminology we do use in our community, it means that the cat is an F3 generation cat that was outcrossed, so one parent is not the breed in question. So in terms of the litter you are talking about they would be F3A Savannahs (as the father is a Chausie) or they can be considered F4A Chausies (as the mother is not a Chausie but Savannah).
You would need to know the pedigrees of both parents to be sure of those percentages. If the mom is an F2A (so was some sort of domestic crossed to serval and then crossed to another domestic cat breed to get the F2) then yes she would be 25% Serval theoretically. But if there is SV to SV crosses in the pedigree then it can be a little higher and more complicated to calculate.
And then the same for the father, it would depend on his pedigree on what % Jungle Cat he theoretically has.
You would need to know the pedigrees of both parents to be sure of those percentages. If the mom is an F2A (so was some sort of domestic crossed to serval and then crossed to another domestic cat breed to get the F2) then yes she would be 25% Serval theoretically. But if there is SV to SV crosses in the pedigree then it can be a little higher and more complicated to calculate.
And then the same for the father, it would depend on his pedigree on what % Jungle Cat he theoretically has.