Health guarantees on a kitten

[Brigitte Cowell]

What? No! Halestone do not get their Savannahs from A1Savannahs, where did you get your information from? It certainly is not from their website.

 

[admin]

Listen @ kabuki ...there is nothing wrong with A1 breeding cats...I have one...many breeders have cats from A1 Savannahs...I don't know why you would be disappointed...

Sandy and Mike may have A1 Savannah cats in their bloodlines...most breeders do...however, not at the F2 level

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[Eddies]

Wow....

 

[NikkiA]

Listen @ kabuki ...there is nothing wrong with A1 breeding cats...I have one...many breeders have cats from A1 Savannahs...I don't know why you would be disappointed...

Sandy and Mike may have A1 Savannah cats in their bloodlines...most breeders do...however, not at the F2 level

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I have three healthy, lovely cats from A1 purchased from Martin and Kathrin before they sold the cattery. The A1 owned by the Stuki's may have sold some pricy cats from time to time, but bloodlines are not IMHO a problem
I also have not had any problem with communicating with Martin and Kathrin regarding our boys post-sale. I know some may have, but I personally have not.

 

[admin]

I have three healthy, lovely cats from A1 purchased from Martin and Kathrin before they sold the cattery. The A1 owned by the Stuki's may have sold some pricy cats from time to time, but bloodlines are not IMHO a problem
I also have not had any problem with communicating with Martin and Kathrin regarding our boys post-sale. I know some may have, but I personally have not.

I never had an issue, Nikki...and Zuri has produced beautiful kittens

 

[NikkiA]

I never had an issue, Nikki...and Zuri has produced beautiful kittens

Yes she has!!

 

[Patti]

The breeder offered to replace Him now or when he passes but not likely to testing her all her cats
I declined the replacement and will cherish him for ever
The TICA pedigree is hard to interpret
what generation he is ... But he has a lot of bengals and they are prone to HCM ++.

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Michaela L

What catches my eye more in this pedigree is the use of Knight Hawk, a DSH meaning an unknown/undisclosed breed, four times in the sire's pedigree. If you want to bring out recessives (such as HCM or dilute colors, etc.) inbreeding or line breeding is one way to do it.

 

[Patti]

Personally, NO I don't think there is.

HCM happens even in feral cat populations. It is more common in some breeds, including the Bengal, which has been heavily used (and not always disclosed) in some Savannah programs... hence some of the cases I have seen over the years came from those lines.

Grain of salt... one of the things that spurs people to join groups and share information is when they have a problem. Many don't bestir themselves to participate when things are normal and going well. But when excited over a new kitten, lots of posts...that as the kitten grows up those posts peter out. And their kitten has a litterbox issue, they seek help online in groups.... so one might also be lead to believe that Savannahs have litterbox issues except that all feline related groups have those kind of posts.

We have a few posts regarding HCM, but to bring into perspective over 1,300 Savannahs were registered with TICA in the last show year period.This is a rapidly growing breed and TICA's Fourth most popular breed... so a lot of Savannahs out there.

I think forums like this one and yahoogroups and Facebook are invaluable though, as they do alert us to health issues and give us a good chance of catching if a certain health issue is increasing in incidence.

And if breeders do not take heed when they produce a kitten with HCM, and test the parents and consider not mating those two together (or even altering and petting out those parents)... well then the story may change. I would hope most breeders take it very seriously when they have a kitten develop HCM...and I wish all breeders scanned their breeders for this disease at least once.

I agree with Brigitte - I think there is more screening that is done in Savannahs than in some other breeds, possibly because of the past use of Bengals, but I have not seen or heard of a higher incidence of HCM in Savannahs than what is average for any other breed not known for HCM.

 

[Patti]

Yes female but another make wouldn't be a bad thing? Females have the looks and males have the size. Do they grow till three yrs old ?


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Hmmm, in my experience the males more often look nicer than the females - it was the bane of Savannah breeders before we started producing fertile Savannah males. Many a prayer to the sex change fairy went unanswered over the years...

 

[Patti]

Wow
I am learning too much And too late for Romeo !
There may be a lot HCM in SV then we realize ...?!?
So my baby was supposed to be 32% serval equivalent to F2 + but he is more F4 with lol of Bengal
Is the Bengal or F generation make him not able to compete in TICA ?


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Michaela L

Actually he is more F2 but registered as 'F4'