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Self Regulation?

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Paige
Staff member
Good idea with the probiotic content of yougurt!

I have a LOT of information to digest:rolleyes: in this thread.

You, Brigitte, Rascaldad and others have scattered morsels throughout this thread. Once I embark on my plan, I'll be scouring it to compile a recipe to feed Louie.

One more thing I didn't know, is that you and Rascaldad have kittens from SE with sensitive stomachs. Coincidence? Dunno, but I was told that they give ALL kittens a probiotic at weaning, to anchor their flora during that stressful time. Maybe the stress of his flight home to me in NJ was another stressor, which upset his balance once more. Maybe same for you and RascalDad. In that case, maybe the probiotic that I ordered WILL work. In any case, I'll report back. I'm determined to get to the bottom of this.

Joe, many kittens are shipped, one of mine flew to the Netherlands with his new owner and my F4 flew to me from OK, without any issues at all...kittens should not NEED probiotics...I gave my kittens probios because their mother was on antibiotics the first two weeks of their lives and I wanted to make sure they were ok...at that time Per recommended yogurt...I went with Probios (sorry Per)...

I think you are very determined to get to the bottom of everything and you probably will...keep us posted please...
 

Per Lausund

Moderator
Staff member
Joe, are you staying away from the thighs and legs because they are fattier?
WHAT? Sometimes you are worse than Trish! Commenting on peoples looks...:big grin:

Kitties need a little fat, and they digest it well. What they don't need is raw egg whites, that will cause indigestion.
One of our cats gets a problematic intestinal lining (it falls out!) when fed kibble, on wet he does fine.
Probiotics are not harmful, and there is hardly ever a time when they don't profit from some (goes for humans, too).:mouse:
And young kitties should live with mum! 16 weeks is a good age, and they are so fun the last month!

Cheers (or regards, if you prefer)
Per
And Jaguars are nice
 
L

Louie'sDad

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"proper" food as in food that has not been processed into dry kibble, and thus is more easily digested. Kibble is good, and solves more problems than it causes, but may be a tad harder to digest due to it being dry.
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P

Understood! Also, the breeder who had LOTS of creds as a nutritionist ( see my post above) states that the EVO kibble may be too "rich". My reasoning in choosing this was to buy the highest quality food with the highest protein/fat content and lowest vegetable/filler content. Also wanted grain-free, and highly nutritious vegetable matter with very high AVAILABLE protein. The EVO has all of this, but the legume content (peas) may be causing flatulence. So, my reasoning may have been faulty, and I will now have to settle for a "less nutritionally rich" food that he can process better.

I "hear" all of your advocacy of a raw diet, and now understand that it's easy on the gut. If I can't find a kibble formula that he will tolerate, then I will have to revisit the possibility of a raw diet in the future.
 

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Paige
Staff member
WHAT? Sometimes you are worse than Trish! Commenting on peoples looks...:big grin:

Kitties need a little fat, and they digest it well. What they don't need is raw egg whites, that will cause indigestion.

And young kitties should live with mum! 16 weeks is a good age, and they are so fun the last month!

Cheers (or regards, if you prefer)
Per
And Jaguars are nice

That's why I asked, Per! I use chicken thighs/leg quarters for raw - when I do chicken...I mainly feed them rabbit though as that is what they prefer...but Ixas is a royal pain and will only eat canned :( How did that happen??? All my kittens were fed raw/canned and he is the only one who will now only eat canned...

As for kittens and how young they should leave, I agree with you...12-16 weeks is optimal in my mind...and yes, they are so much darn fun!!! The last few weeks were the best!!!
 

John Popp

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I would also contact Holly and Dale to get an idea of what they use in the Duck and Pea diet they have mentioned on their site. I just winged it, as I was in scramble mode at the time and pretty much had his stools firmed up before I got my ground duck from Hare Today.

I really don't believe this to be a big issue, but think if we had a handle on what SE uses as a baseline diet for sensitive tummy kittens we would have something solid to work from.
 
L

Louie'sDad

Guest
WHAT? Sometimes you are worse than Trish! Commenting on peoples looks...:big grin:

Kitties need a little fat, and they digest it well. What they don't need is raw egg whites, that will cause indigestion.
One of our cats gets a problematic intestinal lining (it falls out!) when fed kibble, on wet he does fine.
Probiotics are not harmful, and there is hardly ever a time when they don't profit from some (goes for humans, too).:mouse:
And young kitties should live with mum! 16 weeks is a good age, and they are so fun the last month!

Cheers (or regards, if you prefer)
Per
And Jaguars are nice

It's not good when that happens:

http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/gross/ig/Gross-Pictures/Weightlifting-Mishap.htm

Rectal prolapse can be a pain in the you-know-what.
 
L

Louie'sDad

Guest
Joe, are you staying away from the thighs and legs because they are fattier?

Not at all Paige. I had them in the mix that I stated above. I thought that I'd mix the organ meat, thighs, legs, and white meat. I figure I'd give parts of the entire animal, just like they would eat in the wild. If I had a processor, I might try a whole chicken, bones and all. Fat content is good, AFAIK, to burn off quickly in supplying a young cat's energy.
 
L

Louie'sDad

Guest
I would stay away from the gizzards as that has been a non-mover for us. Also might want to try the Evo Duck as we have had issues with the consumption of Turkey.

I'll try, but if he turns up his nose then they get tossed. Somebody mentioned having this problem earlier in the thread. May have been you, and I noted it earlier.

I believe that servals on the African Savannah's specialize in catching rodents, probably meercats as they are plentiful there. Explains the small head and the way they like to stick it into places where it doesn't belong.

If a breeder has serval servals then they surely must have a constant supply of serval different kinds of food for them, including serval kinds of fowl and serval kinds of rodent.
 
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