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For now Rocky's just a big cat, not bobcat, can go home

Carykd7kau

Reincarnated cat Moderator
And Paige, you can't own a bobcat here in Arizona either..nor a Serval nor any other exotic. The Breeders must have special dispensation from Game and Fish to have a Serval to breed. So I fully understand. That does not excuse the interference in the course of human life by entities called government. Government has gotten too big for it's britches and needs to be culled as you would a too large herd of preditors.
 

Carykd7kau

Reincarnated cat Moderator
What upset me is that this lady has a cat which is supposedly a hybid. NOT a true Bobcat. And because it is an escape artist ( as are all active felines ) and has gotten out twice, the government thinks it has the right to take it away from her. Because it will scare the people. Well that doesn't cut it. Washington scares the heck out of me, but I cannot remove them.
Nuff said
 

John Campbell

Site Supporter
Staff member
I know. If the owner KNEW it was a bobcat. But I think ALL legislators are wrong and need to be fired. And the Press is nothing but a bunch of liars anyway. I am so Anti government/press. The best government is one that is not even seen let alone heard. The United States of America used to be a good place to live. Now... the country I grew up in and fought for has died. As have our rights and freedoms as people.

I think you are right.... But it is what it is... and we are being invaded and attacked from within...

Please note from: The prophetic words of Paul Harvey from 1965

“If I were the devil, I wouldn’t be happy until I had seized the ripest apple on the tree—Thee. So I’d set about however necessary to take over the United States. I’d subvert the churches first—I would begin with a campaign of whispers. With the wisdom of a serpent, I would whisper to you as I whispered to Eve: “Do as you please.” “Do as you please.” To the young, I would whisper, “The Bible is a myth.” I would convince them that man created God instead of the other way around. I would confide that what is bad is good, and what is good is “square”. And the old, I would teach to pray. I would teach them to pray after me, ‘Our Father, which art in Washington…’

And then I’d get organized. I’d educate authors on how to lurid literature exciting, so that anything else would appear dull and uninteresting. I’d threaten TV with dirtier movies and vice versa. I’d pedal narcotics to whom I could. I’d sell alcohol to ladies and gentlemen of distinction. I’d tranquilize the rest with pills.

If I were the devil I’d soon have families that war with themselves, churches that war that themselves, and nations that war with themselves; until each in its turn was consumed. And with promises of higher ratings I’d have mesmerizing media fanning the flame. If I were the devil I would encourage schools to refine young intellects, and neglect to discipline emotions—just let those run wild, until before you knew it, you’d have to have drug sniffing dogs and metal detectors at every schoolhouse door.

Within a decade I’d have prisons overflowing, I’d have judges promoting pornography—soon I could evict God from the courthouse, and then the schoolhouse, and then from the houses of Congress. And in His own churches I would substitute psychology for religion, and deify science. I would lure priests and pastors into misusing boys and girls, and church money. If I were the devil I’d make the symbols of Easter an egg and the symbol of Christmas a bottle."

I think that this explains a lot of what is going on today
 

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Paige
Staff member
What upset me is that this lady has a cat which is supposedly a hybid. NOT a true Bobcat. And because it is an escape artist ( as are all active felines ) and has gotten out twice, the government thinks it has the right to take it away from her. Because it will scare the people. Well that doesn't cut it. Washington scares the heck out of me, but I cannot remove them.
Nuff said

Cary, I understand your point totally...I was in the US Army Nurse Corp for 8 years and this is not the country I grew up in either, but...a bobcat hybrid is still illegal...so bottom line is this person is putting her cat and then all hybrid cat owners at risk, which I do not appreciate, considering NJ is where I live...
 

Carykd7kau

Reincarnated cat Moderator
Then why did the court give the cat back when they were unable to prove the breed of the father. Mother WAS a bobcat. So Rocky IS a hybrid. So why did the court return the cat if it is illegal to own even a hybrid. Makes no sense to me.
But I don't want to argue. I am on the same side of the fence as you all.
 

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Paige
Staff member
Then why did the court give the cat back when they were unable to prove the breed of the father. Mother WAS a bobcat. So Rocky IS a hybrid. So why did the court return the cat if it is illegal to own even a hybrid. Makes no sense to me.
But I don't want to argue. I am on the same side of the fence as you all.

I have no idea...and I highly doubt the mother was a bobcat...there is NO proof of that as far as I know...
 

Carykd7kau

Reincarnated cat Moderator
Quoting the Article:
In a stunner that could have been equated to an animal version of the Maury Povich Show, Murray revealed the results of a mitochondrial DNA analysis performed on Rocky's blood at the Northeast Wildlife DNA Laboratory at East Stroudsburg University in Pennsylvania.
"The mother was determined to be a bobcat," Murray said, noting that the DNA test revealed Rocky's mother was 98 percent lynx rufus, or bobcat.
Mitochnodrial DNA is inherited exclusively from the mother, so the DNA test revealed nothing about Rocky's father.
 

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Paige
Staff member
Quoting the Article:
In a stunner that could have been equated to an animal version of the Maury Povich Show, Murray revealed the results of a mitochondrial DNA analysis performed on Rocky's blood at the Northeast Wildlife DNA Laboratory at East Stroudsburg University in Pennsylvania.
"The mother was determined to be a bobcat," Murray said, noting that the DNA test revealed Rocky's mother was 98 percent lynx rufus, or bobcat.
Mitochnodrial DNA is inherited exclusively from the mother, so the DNA test revealed nothing about Rocky's father.

Ah, ok...well, then I have no clue...the entire situation is ridiculous...
 

Rafiki

Site Supporter
Cary, a bobcat/domestic cat hybrid is called a legend cat for a reason. They only exist in legends. While there is apparently no genetic reason why they can't breed, there is no genetic proof of a successful mating per UC Davis. That is what makes me very nervous that after all this woman has been thru, she may lose her cat in the end. To me, Rocky looks like he is pure bobcat.
 
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