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[WitchyWoman]

Should I still leave kibble out in between meals or just keep it hidden unless included in meal? Don't give him kibble any more. You said he doesn't like it that much. My boyfriend is off of work currently so he is home almost all the time he won't have a problem doing meal times during the day while I am at work. Also I saw the recipie on a separate forum that included salmon and egg( cooked whites and raw yolks) if I give him krill oil should I pass on the salmon or vice versa? And should I still do the egg? Do this for all of his meals? Or just a couple times a week with the fish oil and egg and give raw meat with vitamins daily? Should I add the vitamin e, and be complex on top of daily vitamin or leave as is? Was the recipe you're referring to for ground raw? Salmon should be given as a treat maybe twice a month. Raw egg yolk maybe 1x per week. If he likes both as a treat fine. The raw yolk is more important in raw ground recipes than in raw meat chunk diets. I would give krill oil 2-3x week but you should give the Wildtrax daily -- just sprinkle it on his food.


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[Bekki]

I wasn't sure if was enough taurine. But ok sounds good. And I think he'll be thrilled. He doesn't like anything dry and crunchy really. He prefers bloody steak or boiled chicken i burnt chicken once and he would knaw on it and leave it alone lol. Anything wet he loves. So I think this will be super easy. And he's a very good boy. So good he likes to try and walk away with my dinner off my plate haha. Thank you for the help! I'll be sure to keep you all posted. And I believe panacure is the name that's ringing bells in my head


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[wfraser1955]

Hi Bekki, this is the raw from scratch that I feed my Loki, this is for 1 cat and it lasts about 10 days

approx. 3 lbs of chicken thighs I remove about 20% of the bones and in addition I'll remove the skin from 2 or 3 of the thighs depends on how much loose skin is on them. Grind everything else.
4 oz ckicken livers
4 oz chicken hearts
2 raw egg yolks
8 oz water
4000 units Taurine
5000 units fish oil
50 units vitamin B complex
400 units vitamin E
1/2 tspn iodized salt

grind the chicken thighs, hearts and livers into a bowl, put in fridge until ready to mix in the other ingredients.

combine the egg yolks, vitamins, fish oil and salt into the 8 oz of water and stir into meat mixture . Mix thoroughly .

I spoon out the mixture into 3 oz salad dressing containers that I buy at the dollar store , they're 6 for a buck, you need about 24 of them ( they're reusable) I then store them in the freezer until the night before I use them. after I dish up his food I warm it up ever so slightly ( mouse temp)

He cleans it up every time.

Benefits, small stools, no odor

Hope this helps

 

[Bekki]

This is very close to the recipie I came across on the forum. Do you only feed the vitamins in that list or do a multivitamin in addition?


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[wfraser1955]

This is very close to the recipie I came across on the forum. Do you only feed the vitamins in that list or do a multivitamin in addition?


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just the ones listed

 

[Patti]

First thing to do is get a fecal (or another fecal if you've had one done) to test for parasites. Ask that the fecal include a test for giardia. Rule out that as a cause of the gas/diarrhea/smelly poop.

The Wildtrax has calcium carbonate in it so you don't have to worry about supplementing with calcium.

To ensure proper balance of vitamins/minerals, it's best to feed one type of meat at a meal. If he likes beef, mix in a bit of beef liver and beef heart. I buy a whole heart at the grocery store, cut it up small portions and freeze it. Same with chicken hearts -- I freeze 4 in a bag to mix in with chicken & turkey.

Don't feed chicken breast -- use thighs and legs for higher taurine value and higher mineral content. You can buy regular grocery meat if you that's what you prefer.

It is important that you follow the guideline for ratio of meat/organ/bone. You can give him chicken necks, wings, ribs with meat on. Also cornish game hen. Turkey necks & wings are good too. He won't be able to chew the bone, but it'll be good for gums and teeth.

So the ratio for feeding each week:

• 80% raw boneless meat. This includes primarily muscle meat but can also include things like fat and skin, along with any kind of connective tissue such as tendons, sinew, cartilage etc.

• 10% raw edible sized meaty bones (necks/ribs/wings)

• 5-10% squishy organ meats, with half that amount being liver. Don't overdo the liver -- it'll cause diarrhea.

I would also give probiotics for the diarrhea if you haven't done so already. And I would send the fecal PCR before you deworm him again. If he has already been treated with Panacur and still having diarrhea it is less likely something that Panacur can treat, but treating him could potentially mask the infection so I would not want to send it after treating him.

Deborah, when you quote the percentages, are you referring to percentage by weight or by volume, or does it matter? I always think that organ meat is heavier than skeletal meat but maybe not enough so as to make a difference.

 

[Bekki]

I think she means volume at least that's how I interpreted it. And it's different from the one she used before. I'll take the advice he's due for leukemia vaccine soon anyways


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[Bekki]

Ok I went out and bought chicken thighs I just got the supplement in today. So I'll be preparing it tonight. Question is must I freeze for two weeks prior to feeding him? Or can I feed him some tonight and freeze the stuff we won't use in the next couple days. Also can I use a ninja to try and breakup the meat more? How well does it work? And when I am at the grocery store I see giblets is that what I need to buy? And just toss out the kidneys? Where do you guys source your chicken hearts and liver from?


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[Rafiki]

Keep a couple of days worth and freeze the rest. The only place that I can find chicken hearts now is the Asian Markets like 99 Ranch. I would be interested in knowing where others get them....

 

[Bekki]

So if I don't have hearts yet what can I do to supplement until I find a
source? If I am forced to order something in the mean time it'll be a week before it comes in. And he won't get worms because of the fresh chicken will he? Momma instincts are kicking in. It's a somewhat new and scary leap for me


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