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Narrowed Trachea

John Popp

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Also I want to include this video so people have an idea of what all this sounds like and how distressed the cat is. This certainly isn't Dino, but what is displayed in this video could last as long as 15 minutes when Dino was having his episodes. Also note that Dino had an acute case of Bordetella and that his collapsed trachea was a secondary resulting issue.

 
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NikkiA

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Very glad to hear Dino and Dooley are going to be fine.
Thank you for posting the video, John. Useful to have a point of reference.
 

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Paige
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I'm glad Dino and Dooley will be fine! Good to hear that you got to the bottom of it.

Now for some facts about Bortatella...

  • It is a bacterium, known to be a primary cause of respiratory disease in cats and should always be considered when there is any issue with a feline respiratory tract
  • Clinical signs are
    • fever
    • sneezing
    • nasal discharge
    • submandibular lymphadenopathy
    • coughing and
    • rale
  • Research has shown that cats show visible signs within five days of exposure to this bacterium
  • Exposure is fairly common in cats - approximately one in four cats will be exposed...eight out of ten cats are at risk of exposure if they come from a multi-cat household, catteries, vet offices, boarding facilities, cat shows
  • Cats that have been treated and recovered can "carry" the bacterium and shed it for up to nineteen weeks - that is it...scientifically speaking, cats who have been treated stop shedding after a period of time, so no, they are NOT carriers for life or years - unless they are asymptomatic carriers and not treated...
  • Bortatella can be passed between species
  • Sometimes goes away on its own...can be devastating to very young kittens and elderly cats
  • Usually treated with Doxycycline or Clavamox

Bortatella is just not that common, although increases in certain situations, which I have outlined above. It happens...things happen, it is a fact of owning a cat, which we breeders sometimes call virus factories...
 
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Patti

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Thanks for the post Paige, I've never known anyone who has had a cat/kitten with bortadella so was not familiar with it at all. Very glad it is easily treated and not one of those dreaded life-long diseases!
 

John Popp

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Research has shown that cats show visible signs within five days of exposure to this bacterium

This isn't true as it can be an asymptomatic disease. In other words your cat can have the disease without displaying any symptoms.

Outward symptoms Dino displayed were never more than rale and cough. Within 12 hours of first symptom revealing itself Dino was at the emergency room with a collapsed trachea.

Cats that have been treated and recovered can "carry" the bacterium and shed it for up to nineteen weeks - that is it...scientifically speaking, cats who have been treated stop shedding after a period of time, so no, they are NOT carriers for life or years - unless they are asymptomatic carriers and not treated...

I've never known anyone who has had a cat/kitten with bortadella so was not familiar with it at all. Very glad it is easily treated and not one of those dreaded life-long diseases!

This kind of sums it all up. We never hear about Bordatella because it's blindly treated as a "kitty cold" with the presence of some sniffles or a cough. Give the cat some Clavamox and in a week or ten days they're better and not showing any symptoms. Meanwhile they are shedding the bacteria for the next 4 and a half months because it takes as many as 3 weeks of treatment to clear it.

Additionally, a carrier that has built some immunity to the disease and having gone through colonization of the bacteria, post displaying any symptoms can have the bacteria recolonize in times of stress. This is especially true with birthing mothers. Wash, Spin, Rinse, Repeat.

What transpired in Dino's case is pretty rare for cats, but very common in dogs. There isn't any difference in the bacteria between species, just some differences in how cats and dogs respond to the bacteria. Like anything else, Bordetella is evolving and changing and the Internal Medicine Specialist Dino was under the care of preferred using Doxycycline to treat Bordetella as in many acute cases Clavamox was ineffective.

While this disease in cats is generally pretty mild, with Dino's case it's a glimpse of what an acute case can look like and how the secondary symptoms can become life threatening. Again, with Dogs this happens on a much more regular basis and why dogs who are regularly kenneled are required to be vaccinated twice a year for Bordetella.

Because the disease is generally pretty easy to treat it's not recommended to be immunized for in cats, even those in high risk categories such as shelters or catteries. The lone exception is cats who repeatedly show outward symptoms or are known to be frequent carriers.

In all what I have learned is that I don't have any idea where my cats contracted the bacteria from. That despite there only being one other documented case that was posted on these boards, in addition to my own, there have probably been hundreds of them that have been blindly treated by a vet or breeder. Likewise categorically denying potential sources without testing is naive and foolhardy as no symptoms need to exist for Bordetella to be present.
 

John Popp

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Hmmm, while caught up in all of the medical jargon I forgot to mention that Dino and Dooley both had early morning honking episodes. Dooley's lasted a little longer and Dino's was over in less than 30 seconds. I was a bit surprised by Dino horfing again as he was free and clear yesterday. My guess is it's just the steroid injection wearing off and he is still well into his recovery.

Dooley has only been treated since Friday and certainly never displayed the acute symptoms Dino has.

They both slept a ton yesterday, but played pretty hard this morning. They also got in some trouble jailbreaking the pantry. Pulled a box of chicken broth off the shelf, poked some holes in it and made their own chicken broth fountain. Got things cleaned up in time to watch Hansel and Gretel making off with a plastic container of steal cut oats.

It's always something.
 

WitchyWoman

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Buckets of healing good wishes heading to your boys.

I get quadruple teamed on pantry raids. One human against 4 cats. They sneak in when I'm searching for something and as I push one or two out the door, the others tuck themselves into tight spaces between the floor and first shelves. As I'm digging them out, the other 2 run back in. Rinse and repeat. Sometimes I just shut them all in there and they don't know what to do. Apparently they like witnesses to their chaos. No human to inflict suffering upon, no fun for cats.
 

Brigitte Cowell

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Staff member
I agree that many cases might have been missed given it can be treated with clavamox and many might be given that by the vet rather than test...but this is a bug that is included in the PCR respiratory panel so if it were common it would be increasingly detected nowadays, just like we see more Mycoplasma infections now that we can detect it with the PCR panel too...it used to be a rare disease but due to the difficulty in culturing it (so it was easily missed). PCR testing is giving us a much better idea of how common the pathogens are I think.

It's one of those respiratory pathogens that is easy to pick up, at the vet office for example. And if it is possible for a cat (or dog) to carry asymptomatically then it is easy to pass on to others I guess.

Hoping the boys feel much better soon!
 
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