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Tritrichamonas?

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Breheart

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Keljin's weight today: 5.2lbs. He has gained another lb in the last 2 weeks, yay! He is on the right track and thriving. Vet has ordered the ronidazole to be compounded, and I am picking that up tomorrow.

I wasn't able to get a hold of the breeder's vet or regular technician to inform them and catch up on the issues that I wish to be communicated for their benefit and care. I really don't want to be a problem buyer, but I think they just honestly didn't know any better and I just want to help! I haven't gotten any email responses in over a week now, so I feel reaching out to the vet is my last resort.
 

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Paige
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YAY! Glad to hear it!

I don't think you are being a problem buyer at all. You are dong the right thing to educate them and protect other buyers.
 

Sue

Savannah Super Cat
began on his way to health! I fell in love with the little guy and his unique markings and wanted him to be mine.

He has had ongoing diarrhea issues his whole life unsolved, and after many vet remedies it continues to come back.

October 28 2011 - 11 weeks old 0.63lb Keljin came home with me, bony dehydrated and way underweight compared to his 2lb siblings. He tested positive for roundworms, so I gave him dewormer twice, 2 weeks apart from the vet. Also treated him with flea medicine once he was done with the dewormer.

November 2011 - 14 weeks, 1.21lbs! he doubled weight in 3 weeks I was so happy. But, he was drippy with terrible diarrhea that he could not control and dripped everywhere he walked. Vet had me change to a GI sensitive diet to see if that would help. I also began giving him a spoon of pumpkin with each feeding. At this point he was 100% dry food converted. The wet food made his stools worse, so I stopped with that.

December 2011 - 17 weeks, 1.15lbs.. Dehydrated and losing weight. I noticed some little rice grainy segments in his drips, uh oh.. tapeworm! Gave him a pill to kill the tapeworm. Vet started him on metranodizole to ease up his diarrhea.

Early January 2012 - Keljin is 2.4 lbs! He is thriving, nice stools, active, and gaining weight like a maniac. Took him in to get neutered and vaccinated now that he was nice and healthy. Post surgery was a battle.. he refused to eat for 5 days straight, I mushed food and water and force fed him, he became dehydrated and lost weight again.. Finally got him to start eating pumpkin, then back to dry food after that was done.

Present - 5 months old Keljin is 3lbs (his siblings are all 5-7lbs so he is still behind) He is eating well and active, but his diarrhea has come back! Forgot to mention he also occasionally bleeds when passing stools. Bright blood so its fresh, he just has a sensitive rear end. All this time this symptom was brushed off being blamed on sensitive due to parasites, and ongoing diarrhea, and also being so small. But now that its ongoing, we have treated every symptom but it just seems to keep coming back. What is the underlying cause?

I have gotten in touch with one of his siblings owners, and she had the same problems too! fleas, tapeworm, severe diarrhea. Then I hear that she also had Tritrichamonas.. that is the last thing we have not treated for, but I heard that medicine is hazardous to humans, and has a lot of bad kitty side effects such as brain tumors? Is it worth it to get Kejlin healthy? I am tired of following him and wiping his butt constantly due to his drippings. He is finally able to gain weight and be normal, but I just still worry for this underlying cause since the symptoms keep returning each month..

Does anyone have any experience with Tritrachamonas, or the medicine Ronodizole? My sister Alisha, with Kronos, opened a threat about diarrhea issues which I am sure will be helpful to me also. But I am wondering if this is something I should look into or not.. Help!
I got Tinkerbell Aug, 30, 2010. From the day we got her she had a foul odor when she used the litter box and periodically she had what I thought was diarrhea. In Feb., 2011, I read about Tritrichomonus Foetus (TF) ona Savannah cat website. the symptoms described sounded like the foul odor and the cow pie like stools that I had seen since the day I got her. I started researching TF on the Internet. Dr. Jodi Gookin is the leading authority (NCState Vet school). I contacted the breeder that I got her from to question if her cats had ever been treated or tested for TF since it is often misdiagnosed as Giardia and she wanted me to take a sick savannah into my home. Like all email & phone calls to this breeder, I received no response. I kept a close watch on Tinkerbell and started calling vets to find a vet that knew what TF was. In June, 2011, she had a cow pie stool. I took a picture of it and contacted the vet that knew what TF was & got an appointment that afternoon. I brought in copies of the research I had done for the vet office. A stool sample was looked at under a microscope & she had it. All of the vets & lab techs then looked at the slide, so that all knew what it was. The info I brought in was copied for everyone to read up on. The compound drug ronidazole was ordered from Diamondback Pharmacy in Ariz. We treated her for 2.5 weeks. We then waited about a month and had her retested. This stool sample came back negative. We have not had any other issues with the cow pie stools or the odor. From my research , I found that TF was found in one third of the cats at a cat show. I believe this was the illness in the cattery I got her from and that they were trying to treat it as Giardia and Giardia meds are not effective on TF. My contract is to breed Tinkerbell with a male from the breeder. I have asked for proof that her stud does not have TF. I do not want to reinfect her. This breeder refuses all phone calls , emails and I think has even moved. Phone numbers have also been disconnected. I would recommend that anyone that has the foul odor and cow pie stools look into TF. Hope this helps. Sue
 
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Kronos

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I got Tinkerbell Aug, 30, 2010. From the day we got her she had a foul odor when she used the litter box and periodically she had what I thought was diarrhea. In Feb., 2011, I read about Tritrichomonus Foetus (TF) ona Savannah cat website. the symptoms described sounded like the foul odor and the cow pie like stools that I had seen since the day I got her. I started researching TF on the Internet. Dr. Jodi Gookin is the leading authority (NCState Vet school). I contacted the breeder that I got her from to question if her cats had ever been treated or tested for TF since it is often misdiagnosed as Giardia and she wanted me to take a sick savannah into my home. Like all email & phone calls to this breeder, I received no response. I kept a close watch on Tinkerbell and started calling vets to find a vet that knew what TF was. In June, 2011, she had a cow pie stool. I took a picture of it and contacted the vet that knew what TF was & got an appointment that afternoon. I brought in copies of the research I had done for the vet office. A stool sample was looked at under a microscope & she had it. All of the vets & lab techs then looked at the slide, so that all knew what it was. The info I brought in was copied for everyone to read up on. The compound drug ronidazole was ordered from Diamondback Pharmacy in Ariz. We treated her for 2.5 weeks. We then waited about a month and had her retested. This stool sample came back negative. We have not had any other issues with the cow pie stools or the odor. From my research , I found that TF was found in one third of the cats at a cat show. I believe this was the illness in the cattery I got her from and that they were trying to treat it as Giardia and Giardia meds are not effective on TF. My contract is to breed Tinkerbell with a male from the breeder. I have asked for proof that her stud does not have TF. I do not want to reinfect her. This breeder refuses all phone calls , emails and I think has even moved. Phone numbers have also been disconnected. I would recommend that anyone that has the foul odor and cow pie stools look into TF. Hope this helps. Sue
I am so sorry your breeder disappeared on you :( What are your plans to do with your girl now as far as breeding goes, since you cannot get in contact with your breeder? I hope they changed the contract to allow you to breed elsewhere.
 

Per Lausund

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If the breeder reneges on the contract (out of communication etc is exactly that) then buyer must consider him-/herself free to do as he/she wants. So in my opinion, Sue, you should inform the breeder by mail (keeping a copy, or even better cc-ing someone you trust) that you require an answer from him by a certain date or you will assume he is not interested in supplying you with a stud/breeding. Repeat mail after a few days if no answer, or call and remind, and if no answer declare contact null and void on that point due to breeder reneging, and go ahead! At least that´s what I would do, and expect someone to do if I should not fulfil my part...
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Breheart

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I got Tinkerbell Aug, 30, 2010. From the day we got her she had a foul odor when she used the litter box and periodically she had what I thought was diarrhea. In Feb., 2011, I read about Tritrichomonus Foetus (TF) ona Savannah cat website. the symptoms described sounded like the foul odor and the cow pie like stools that I had seen since the day I got her. I started researching TF on the Internet. Dr. Jodi Gookin is the leading authority (NCState Vet school). I contacted the breeder that I got her from to question if her cats had ever been treated or tested for TF since it is often misdiagnosed as Giardia and she wanted me to take a sick savannah into my home. Like all email & phone calls to this breeder, I received no response. I kept a close watch on Tinkerbell and started calling vets to find a vet that knew what TF was. In June, 2011, she had a cow pie stool. I took a picture of it and contacted the vet that knew what TF was & got an appointment that afternoon. I brought in copies of the research I had done for the vet office. A stool sample was looked at under a microscope & she had it. All of the vets & lab techs then looked at the slide, so that all knew what it was. The info I brought in was copied for everyone to read up on. The compound drug ronidazole was ordered from Diamondback Pharmacy in Ariz. We treated her for 2.5 weeks. We then waited about a month and had her retested. This stool sample came back negative. We have not had any other issues with the cow pie stools or the odor. From my research , I found that TF was found in one third of the cats at a cat show. I believe this was the illness in the cattery I got her from and that they were trying to treat it as Giardia and Giardia meds are not effective on TF. My contract is to breed Tinkerbell with a male from the breeder. I have asked for proof that her stud does not have TF. I do not want to reinfect her. This breeder refuses all phone calls , emails and I think has even moved. Phone numbers have also been disconnected. I would recommend that anyone that has the foul odor and cow pie stools look into TF. Hope this helps. Sue
Glad to hear Tinkerbell got better! Thanks so much for the story, and sorry for what you had to go through too.
 
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Breheart

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new update.. After waiting during the weekend while the vet and pharmacy were closed, I wasted 2 hours this morning driving in and out of Seattle now that the meds were ready for pickup. Only to find out the compounding pharmacy made liquid instead of tablets and now they have to redo it.. I SPECIFICALLY asked for tablets, because last time we did liquid meds with chicken flavor even, Keljin learned to drool and spit it all out. Since I have to be super careful and accurate with the Ronidazole dosage, I don't want to risk giving Keljin too much or too little if he is spitting out and needing more.

So, now I have to wait another day or two to go back again for it once they re make it... yay
 
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Kronos

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New update for me too. Kronos' GI PCR Panel came back negative for everything. It checked for tritrich among several other things that cause GI upset.

My vet has advised me to try a hypoallergenic food and she can refer me to a specialist. She said a specialist would want to look at his gut through ultrasound and also perhaps take a biopsy of his colon. Yikes.

Recently his poop is actually doing better. It is firm at first, but then when the end of the poop comes out it is mucousy. There is no more blood, and he never actually dripped feces like Keljin was. I'm hesitant now on whether or not to treat with ronidazole.....
 

Melissa

Savannah Child
I had a rescue Aby that came from a breeder raid. She had giardia, coccidia and tritrich. We thought we had it nailed treating the first two, and then she infected my other two cats. I had to do a repeat treatment of ronidazole for all three and keep them isolated from one another for almost three weeks. It was horrid.

I would absolutely treat with ronidazole again. I can't imagine the distress and pain that kind of diarrhea would cause, nevermind the health issues. Tritrich also stinks to high heaven, and everytime Elsa pooped, I thought about burning down the house and moving out of state.

It's your cat, but I think it's better to have a treated cat who may remain a carrier than a cat suffering like that.

My two cents....

Melissa
 
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