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Unsure of generation to purchase

SV Dad

Savannah Super Cat
TJ, Male or female, alpha or not? To give you an idea of unpredictability, I have full brothers a year apart. One is reserved and shy, and the other is very friendly and into everything every chance he gets. I really think it's a coin toss, but they all bond very well and the personality is amazing! Follow the advice about introductions, as I really feel that can make the difference.
 

Brigitte Cowell

Moderator
Staff member
Absolutely, doing correct introductions can make or break a pet household. You need to take it as slowly as the most resistant pet in the mix needs...even if the others are okay with the change, if one is having issues slow the process down. It's worth it in the end...
 

Enigmatic.eyez

Savannah Super Cat
11, 7 and five. I'm typically home 24/7 except for daily runs or errands but then my dog comes with.

Yes I've had cats. I've done a few fostering for some strays until they found homes.

As far as my home goes...it's puppy and kid proof. No knick jacks. Hidden cords etc.

I'm still unsure what the main difference is between SBT and f generations? Perhaps personality?


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Brigitte Cowell

Moderator
Staff member
No, SBT and the F-number are different things... the F-number tells you how many generations away from the Serval the Savannah is (or from the ALC in the case of the Bengal or from the Jungle Cat in the case of a Chausie). SBT refers to the cat being what the cat fancy considers "purebred" which is at least three generations of Savannah to Savannah breeding. "A" means the cat is outcrossed (one of the parents is not a Savannah), "B" means one generation of SV to SV breeding (so one of the grandparents is not a Savannah), "C" means two generations (a greatgrandparent is not SV)...and then SBT means three generations or more and what we term "purebred".

So a Savannah cannot be SBT until at least F4 generation (as the Serval is actually considered an "outcross")...

You will tend to find that outcrossed (A-registered) Savannahs will be much cheaper, but then the downside is that they may more resemble the other side of the pedigree that is not Savannah. So saying that, there have been A and B-registered Savannahs that show more "type" than some SBTs. When choosing a pet it is all about what appeals to your heart in reality :)
 

Becki

Savannah Super Cat
I am not a breeder, they are clearly the most obvious choice for professional advice. I will share what I have learned having bought my first being totally naive, and my second being just quasi naive thanks to stalking this board for information more hours than I should admit too!

Although I coveted, and frankly still do, f1s, I have a small child and a teenager in the house. I felt because of the baby, an f2 would be a better choice. I also thought I wanted this big, dramatic cat, hence the breed choice. Since then, I have learned a few things. The first is how silly it was for me to even care about size. I know it sounds cliche, but these guys have such huge personalities, that becomes the driver for loving this breed. It seems this personality is not generation specific, just read some of the posts on the daily antics we share! That isn't to say each cat doesn't have their own thing going, of course they do, but it does seem there are generally differing levels of intensity between the generations.

My Nyah was a special case when we got her. She was not a fan of people, couldn't be touched, nothing. The breeder I got her from is wonderful, she represented Nyah just as she was and even discouraged me as a first time SV owner from buying her, but I am a sucker for the misfit. After much work, Nyah is just the best. She is still a bit quirky, like not wanting anyone but me or my husband to pet her. She will let our 15 year old, but not always. The baby? Forget it. Note the baby has never chased her, so that isn't the reason. Nyah can be very stubborn, she is a picky eater, and she is very smart. She is a door opener, a faucet turner oner, a food thief. She also fetches, sits on command and shakes. She is a talker, wow is she a talker. Her latest thing is a flushing toilet. She will sit in front of the toilet and howl until someone flushes it for her. I have caught her jiggling the handle and am getting very worried she is figuring out how to do it herself.

When we decided to add another, we determined a male would be a less risky match for Nyah, though she is spayed. I was not at all concerned about size, but had discovered an affinity for nonstandard colors. In my search, I reached out to a number of recommended breeders. I would have been willing to purchase the right kitten from any of them, but one day in my in box came an email with a little squirt of kitten and I was in love. He looked just like a baby werewolf, which may or may not be a desirable trait! He is a standard color as a dark smoke, but perhaps not all together "traditional". He is a lot of cat. He is simply crazy. He is intense and stubborn, he claims he speaks a foreign language and therefore doesn't understand what we are saying when telling him no. He has no fear or brakes, so he crashes a lot. He has destroyed the blinds in my room. He climbs screens (to be fair, Nyah does a pretty good spider cat impersonation on screens as well, and she did destroy my custom dining room drapes). I have fang marks in furniture, I have fang marks in my duvet cover. I have been told I can't get a new one until someone outgrows putting fang marks all over the place.

They are always with us. Always. I work from home a lot, and I have my little assistants with me. People listen for the inevitable bark / meow noise on con calls with me now! If I leave, they both put their little noises on the window and howl because I am going. When I get back, they run with poofy tails and purring like I have been gone years. There have also been moments of destruction that I believe is because they are upset no one is home with them. We have left for a weekend with a great pet sitter, but Nyah was sulky. They bond very intensely, they aren't ok with putting a bowl of food down and then leaving for a weekend! Also, the litter box must be clean. If not, Nyah will leave a little message right outside the box. Kovu has his steps backwards and digs first, then goes potty and leaves it all out there. Nyah will get disgusted on occasion and go cover it for him, muttering under her breath.

I love them, crazy and all. They have become so special to us, we have changed our lives to ensure they are ok. This means we stay home with them as much as possible, we don't expect much in the way of extended vacations! Our house is covered in baby toys and cat toys with a few chihuahua toys thrown in. We have cat trees and a cat wall. We have become full fledged crazy cat people. They aren't for the feint of heart, I truly understand what a lot of cat means now. I wouldn't recommend an early generation if you aren't willing to make the kind of changes and commitment these cats demand. But if you are willing? Wow what a treat they are, and I can't begin to explain how cool it is to have an animal so intensely bonded to you. Again, I am not a breeder, and i cant tell you just how different it would be with a later generation. This is merely an attempt explain what life is like with 2 f2s in a pretty long winded way!
 
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Enigmatic.eyez

Savannah Super Cat
I'm unable to respond for Savannah's for sale on this forum? Hubby and I discussed it extensively and now are looking for a breeder.


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Patti

Admin
Staff member
I'm not sure why you can't respond - do you mean on the forum, or are you trying to PM the breeder? I think there are some restrictions on PM'ing, hopefully Paige can pop in here with an explanation.
 

Patti

Admin
Staff member
The breeders usually have an email or website in their signature - maybe try reaching them through that route?
 

SavannahDreamer20

Savannah Kitten
jason, I disagree...my kittens do not grow up with dogs, yet every single one of them lives with a dog...and there was no issue integrating. Savannahs and dogs just seem to get along, as long as intros are done correctly.

Same goes for kids - I do not have any, yet some of my savannah kittens love with and love kids...a well socialized kitten will do well with kids, dogs and other animals...

Could you elaborate on how to properly introduce your savannah to your dogs? Just in case I have a dog when I decide to get a savnnah.
 
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