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did anyone get papers with their kitty?

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tkymasters

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I told my breeder to save the paperwork... I could care less about their legacy, because they are all getting fixed and I wasn't planning on showing them... I just wanted to expand my family..
 

mickey

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I ordered the 5 generation from TICA and got it last week. I noticed that a lot of the cats were from the same breeder that my brother (Rascaldad) bought 4 Savannah's from. He lives in IIlinois and I live in Fl. So I called him and he emailed me copies of his pedigrees. It turns out that the mother of his F3 female had a sister in the same litter that is the great great grandmother of mine. Tink is an F6. I also now know what other breeds were used. Tink has Bengals, and American Bob Tails in her background. I also am able to combine the 2 pedigrees to have an 8 generation pedigree in a few places. Our 2 pedigrees had 3 cats in common. I found this very interesting and would recommend buying the pedigrees if you do not get one from the breeder. Sue
American bobtails??

Thats interesting. I have one female american bobtail left Iwas wanting to breed with a bengal or savannah to try and get a bobcat type cat, I had a mainecoon with awesome eartuffs, still have the mother but someone stole him when he got out last month. Have a lost cat notice on CL but losing hope. Ihat little grey kitten had longer tuffs than him, but I lost him due to a vet's advice on flea prevention. My own fault really, I had a gut feeling and did it anyway. Not in a habit of losing cats, those were very heartbreaking, the kittens were strays I brought in from a wild cat that tends to abandone litters and I had to nurse them along at the start.
 

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mickey

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Some pics of the bobtail and one wild mother that leaves presents and is trapwise. But back to Savannahs, when I say prices are all over , here are 2 examples' The one in cat tree they want 3500 or so, claim they paid 5500. The other 650. The latter they claim is an F5 but reniged on contract, the one in tree has papers
Free to good home , have no clue what it is, thought about taking it in, but thats just a sickness I have
 

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Brigitte Cowell

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I told my breeder to save the paperwork... I could care less about their legacy, because they are all getting fixed and I wasn't planning on showing them... I just wanted to expand my family..
I can think of one reason you might want the paperwork... you have an F1 right? You might need some day to prove he IS a Savannah and not a Serval. Don't laugh, people get them mixed up. I had a situation here in San Francisco where I had homed a large Savannah girl, she got into an altercation while on a leashed walk with an unleashed dog and the dog's owner called Animal Control saying there was a Serval. The AC officer turned up at the owner's place and he promptly called me for help. I had to go down to AC with her registration papers to prove she was a domestic cat. I showed the officer pictures of a Serval and pictures of Katie and he could tell me the differences, but he still wanted a copy of her papers to prove it as the person making the complaint was kinda hysterical about it. Attached is a pic of the cat in question.... and the dog in question was a labrador threatening her new daddy...
 

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Brigitte Cowell

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Some pics of the bobtail and one wild mother that leaves presents and is trapwise. But back to Savannahs, when I say prices are all over , here are 2 examples' The one in cat tree they want 3500 or so, claim they paid 5500. The other 650. The latter they claim is an F5 but reniged on contract, the one in tree has papers
Free to good home , have no clue what it is, thought about taking it in, but thats just a sickness I have
Be careful when bargain-shopping for Savannahs, there are plenty of scammers out there that know that people get excited over our breed. You will find those that will pretend the cat is a Savannah and hope you take the bait of the cheap price for its purported generation.... you will find those that online steal other breeder's pictures and "sell" that kitten and either you get no kitten or when they meet you in some parking lot with a crate you get home to a kitten that obviously is plain domestic shorthair. Prices will vary with Savannahs though, depending on generation, age, quality and all sorts of factors. Just do your research so that you do get what you are paying for!
 

mickey

Savannah Super Cat
Be careful when bargain-shopping for Savannahs, there are plenty of scammers out there that know that people get excited over our breed. You will find those that will pretend the cat is a Savannah and hope you take the bait of the cheap price for its purported generation.... you will find those that online steal other breeder's pictures and "sell" that kitten and either you get no kitten or when they meet you in some parking lot with a crate you get home to a kitten that obviously is plain domestic shorthair. Prices will vary with Savannahs though, depending on generation, age, quality and all sorts of factors. Just do your research so that you do get what you are paying for!
Can one get the pedigree without registering? Somewhat confused about some of the above.
Yeah, the 650 cat they claim they paid 800 in Galipolis, but can't seem to remember who the breeder was. I said somehow I think if I handed someone 800 I might remember who they were. Then his wife in another email said they bought it from someone who bought it in Galipolis, so I mentioned I wanted the catteries name, never got a reply, terrible pics too.
Yeah the obvious scams are just that, obvious. These, "reniged on contract" are something else.
So who has good cats on here for sale?
 

Brigitte Cowell

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Yes, you should be able to get the pedigree of the kitten/cat you are considering from the breeder before purchasing.

I think you can tell when a story is fictional, as you say if they can't remember then there is a good chance it didn't happen that way. And maybe they DID buy it, but if they didn't get the details then who is to say what THEY paid 800 for was actually a Savannah? They may have been taken for a ride and trying to get out of it with the financial loss shared by you!

I don't know who has cats for sale though, I rarely have kittens available...I don't produce many and they seem to get spoken for fairly rapidly when I do :)
 

mickey

Savannah Super Cat
I have that situation with my Bengal, but I know that guy. That's why I was curious, I wasn't concerned about papers as I always figured papers were for people that showed their cats. Anyway I know who the breeder is , they have like a hundred cats. The history of mine is sad, caged all her life. But the breeder is really ticked off at him so I have been trying to figure how to approach her in regards to her pedigree, if for no other reason than a medical history in family tree, also needed to ask her what vaccinations etc she had. He only had her 4 months b4 he sold her to me.
Thing is, she had a hard life, and he said the breeder said there was a complication at one point with her, and she is very thin, but seems to eat well. I have a vet appointment this week, so I should learn more then.
 

mickey

Savannah Super Cat
What I wrote above may not seem to be that important, but I understand Bengal's (I do not know about Savannahs) have small livers, don't handle certain meds and anesthesia too well, and can have problems just because of their gene pool. The breeder is TICA registered, but I don't know that makes them "reputable" and of course I will not name them here.
 
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