Self Regulation?

[Sourek]

Since this is my thread, I'll take the liberty to make ONE more post OT, and that's it.

John> If you visit Team Chevelle ( http://www.chevelles.com/forums/ ), you might see me there...............1965tripleblack. I like to dispense bad advice from time to time.
Let me know your handle, if you go there. I'll look for you.[/quote

I'm also on that forum, but I haven't posted yet on it. I have the same name as here.

 

[Louie'sDad]

I find when it is other raw meats then you don't seem to get that stomach upset. Not sure about canned tuna though, my cats are not that into fish so I haven't tried that.

Louie responded when I opened a can of solid white tuna (in water) for my lunch a few days ago. In trying to entice him to eat more of his kibble, I emptied the water into his dish. He dove into it and I though "great". Well, he ate about 10 nuggets but lapped up all of the tuna liquid. Fake out! Remember...................he gets all he wants 24/7, and he's the "regulator", just like Bush 43 was the "decider".

He loves salmon, which I eat a lot of. I usually share with him, but sometimes he's not satisfied and sticks his muzzle into my dish. I let him help himself.

 

[Per Lausund]

You folks have got my head spinning on this one.
First, and perhaps Per can comment with some authority on this, B-12 injected and B-12 orally are very different in humans, and I wonder if the same issue of absorption occurs in cats. (Per?) In humans with pernicious anemia, malabsorption of B-12 orally is corrected with B-12 injection. (I really simplified this issue.)
Next, and again maybe Per can comment, if the oral route is fine for appetite stimulation, would it be acceptable to take some of the 1/10 tablet of B-complex which is ground up, and sprinkle it on food directly? Would the taste discourage eating? How about brewers yeast, which is high in the B vitamins. (I'm trying to cut down on the extra work Scorpius is doing with the dilutions.)

Lastly, I feed my SV's 4 times daily with wet food and they have dry food always available. They eat what they want. They are not fat. They are active. They are healthy. They look good. Am I lucky? Are that many of you having challenges with your cats and their diet?

I´m not sure of the availability of orally given B12, I´d inject it. But old "vet´s tricks" was to give an animal that lacked appetite a shot of mixed vit B, and that (historically) helped. I don´t know what present-day Latin is on that, but animals haven´t changed a lot through the years. IMPORTANT: EXTRA VITAMIN B IS NOT HARMFUL (unless of course you give it in amounts that replace other food!). And most of the B-group works fine orally, so if your cat accepts the taste, go for it. Remember that Biotin gives a boost to hair growth and quality, but that includes both nails/claws and fur! Brewers yeast is great, and the glikans it contains help your (and the cats´) immune system as well.
As for feeding routines, we let ours have kibble available all the time, and supply chicken or whatever when we feel like it. The exception is the odd SV that reacts to kibble.

 

[Per Lausund]

I've got a question. Ya know how they say not to change your cats diet too much? That it upsets their system? Any kind of cat or dog. Well, my question is if I feed my Savannaha's mostly whole, ground, raw chicken, is it ok to give them other types of raw meat like fish, beef, deer or even solid white albacore tuna from the can from time to time?

If you use high-quality raw that´s been frozen, you may risk it. But as I have stated again and again, raw birds especially may be (mainly) surface contaminated with salmonella, as may pork, so my suggestion would be to at least blanche it (dip it in boiling water to disinfect the surface) before use. And raw saithe/pollack is not a good idea: it kills one of the B vitamins. Cooked is all right. As are most other fish served raw (after freezing).

 

[Per Lausund]

He's 2lbs 13 oz as of exactly one week ago. I haven't weighed him since then. He's 3 months and 3 weeks old. He is eating well and he's playful but not as crazy as his f4 brother. I should mention that he and his brother are coming off a bout with ringworm and a respiratory infection, both of which he has medication for.

By the way, a 1M is super cool and rare. Great track car.

There you are, that may explain why he is not growing well. Cure him, and he´ll catch up, but he mayas Brigitte says not be a big one. You´ll know in three years.


OK, OK, OK, I no longer do Jeeps (had a Comanche and a Cherokee for altogether 20 years as daily drives), now it´s all British. A Jaguar XJ for my wife, and a Jag XF for me. Both diesels. And there is a BMW 1-series parked outside that we love as well.

 

[Louie'sDad]

We could derail this thread again and I could tell you all about my 1967 SS Chevelle.

I saw "Chevelle" in your post #27 but I responded "Camaro" in post #28. I don't know what I was thinking as I had a rough day taking my furnace apart and cleaning the stack/heat exchanger of 15 years of soot. Instead of this:

"Nice car...............first Camaro and the only one with vent windows. I hope it's a DZ motor."

I should have said this:

'67 is my favorite year Chevelle, and a toss up as to which is more expensive, between '67 and '70. I think all of them from '67-'70 are the most desirable. Of course BBC (396) Chevelles are at the top of the food chain. A buddy of mine had a solid lifter SBC '65 back in the day that he powershifted constantly. Broke more than a few Muncies until he broke a rod and grenaded a piston.

 

[Louie'sDad]

I'm also on that forum, but I haven't posted yet on it. I have the same name as here.

It's a great forum. Lotta knowledge there. More than the Team Camaro site, and almost as much as the Corvette Forum, IMHO. L78 is one strong high winding motor. Those 375 horses would increase substantially if you uncork the exhaust like in the Corvette with 425.

I'm a SBC guy myself. Nothin' like the sound of a healthy smallblock with a solid roller shifting @ 7500 RPM, although a healthy BBC is fun because of all the torque.

See you on the T Chevelle forum.

The ringworm ate all of your kitty's nourishment. He has some catching up to do, although I wouldn't expect him to become larger than average.

 

[Louie'sDad]

Hubby is sad he hasn't gotten it to the track yet. We went to Germany last October to take delivery of the X1 (we live in San Francisco) and drove it up to Nurburgring...so he did get a track day, just in the wrong car ;-)

If he's been through medication for ringworm and a URI, then that could well explain why he's not grown as much as you might want... have you been giving him a probiotic to help his gut recover from those meds (if he was taking antifungals they are really rough on their digestion)?

Brigitte,

You might remember that I was concerned with Louie's semi-soft stools awhile ago. Not much change: the first 3/4 of it is segmented, hard and dark as it should be, and the last 1/4 is lighter in color and semi-soft. About 1 in 5 times, he will pass a fully segmented, dark, firm normal stool. I told Holly Hummel (the breeder) about it and she sent me some ProZyme to add to his food. It made no difference, and actually, exacerbated the horrible stench of the semi-soft section of stool. He passes gas from time to time, and I'm not fast enough to light it with my butane lighter . Seriously, though..............last week he got to the bag of ProZyme and scattered it nicely throughout my house. I haven't replaced it, and actually, his stool is unchanged, although not nearly as rotten.


Joe

 

[Louie'sDad]

Have you tried Marinol?

http://www.medibolics.com/Marinol2.htm

 

[SV Dad]

Have you tried Marinol?

http://www.medibolics.com/Marinol2.htm

???? You trying to buzz this cat? Sometimes it helps in humans... Megace even less.....
The B-complex is always worth a try and being a water soluble vitamin, high amounts should not be harmful (but don't get ridiculous)
Joe, one of my cats really doesn't have a hard formed stool. Doesn't seem to bother him. Curiously, all three of my SV's can occasionally have soft stools. ( I do kick around the the thought f the Tric infection...)