Self Regulation?

[Sourek]

It's a great forum. Lotta knowledge there. More than the Team Camaro site, and almost as much as the Corvette Forum, IMHO. L78 is one strong high winding motor. Those 375 horses would increase substantially if you uncork the exhaust like in the Corvette with 425.

My car isn't restored yet. Just got it in November. It drives like a tractor, a lot of things I need to address with getting the power down to the road. I'd love to hear more about uncorking the exhaust, but that's probably best left for the chevelle forum.

The ringworm ate all of your kitty's nourishment. He has some catching up to do, although I wouldn't expect him to become larger than average.

The thing is that he didn't show any outward symptoms of ringworm. We caught it really early with him. His brother had already started losing patches of hair by the time I got him to the vet. So I'm not really sure how bad he had the ringworm in the first place. His brother who had it bad for sure, is growing rapidly. I guess there really isn't anything to do except wait and speak to his vet again.

 

[John Popp]

John> If you visit Team Chevelle ( http://www.chevelles.com/forums/ ), you might see me there...............1965tripleblack. I like to dispense bad advice from time to time.
Let me know your handle, if you go there. I'll look for you.

Hmmm, I think I had a log on there years ago, and got more involved with my drag car, then my truck and then the wife's Wrangler. Just was learning exponentially more with the drag forum(prestige), and after years of trying, finally knew more than my Dad who raced in the 60s and early 70s. Definitely good times back in the day as growing up you could count on one hand the Fathers who didn't have race car in the garage on our street.

Oh, and back to cats for a moment. Here's two images that sum up Chongo and despite all his energy he continues to care less about eating anything.

 

[SV Dad]

Oh, and back to cats for a moment. Here's two images that sum up Chongo and despite all his energy he continues to care less about eating anything.

Edit above, delete "Chongo" and insert "Mayhem". Seems the brothers have a lot in common.
(Rascal is much more resereved.....)

 

[John Popp]

Yep, that's how they roll.

Interestingly I was just preparing some cheese, sausages and crackers for a snack. Phone rings and I talk to my wife for a bit who has just made it to her hotel in Florida and there goes Chongo with some 8 year old cheddar. Cheese recovered, complete with extra holes and a few growls because he didn't want to give it up.

I'm beginning to believe he is the spawn of a rat.

 

[Brigitte Cowell]

Brigitte,

You might remember that I was concerned with Louie's semi-soft stools awhile ago. Not much change: the first 3/4 of it is segmented, hard and dark as it should be, and the last 1/4 is lighter in color and semi-soft. About 1 in 5 times, he will pass a fully segmented, dark, firm normal stool. I told Holly Hummel (the breeder) about it and she sent me some ProZyme to add to his food. It made no difference, and actually, exacerbated the horrible stench of the semi-soft section of stool. He passes gas from time to time, and I'm not fast enough to light it with my butane lighter . Seriously, though..............last week he got to the bag of ProZyme and scattered it nicely throughout my house. I haven't replaced it, and actually, his stool is unchanged, although not nearly as rotten.


Joe

Joe, I wouldn't put Prozyme in the same use category as a probiotic, it's enzymes to help digest food rather than the friendly bacteria to help repopulate the gut... I like Proviable as a probiotic or Probios. Proviable is good as it has two forms, a paste that contains kaolin and pectin to help soothe the digestive tract and firm stools...as well as the probiotic bacteria, and then capsules with just the bacteria for after the stools are firmer. Probios comes as a powder that is easy to sprinkle on food, the bacteria are seemingly cultured in milk-containing base so it smells like dehydrated milk powder and they don't seem to mind the taste.

My vet always recommends taking a kitten or cat back to the blandest diet if trying to sort out digestive issues. He recommends boiled chicken and rice, and it can take up to a month to settle the digestion in some cats. Years ago we had to do that with the whole household for that long to get one of my Savannahs settled when she developed an intolerance to Evo kibble. Once the stools are formed and stable, then you can work on reintroducing a more "normal" diet. So that's an option, although I've found putting them on a raw diet does a similar thing, just removing kibble and canned until their systems are settled.

 

[Brigitte Cowell]

The thing is that he didn't show any outward symptoms of ringworm. We caught it really early with him. His brother had already started losing patches of hair by the time I got him to the vet. So I'm not really sure how bad he had the ringworm in the first place. His brother who had it bad for sure, is growing rapidly. I guess there really isn't anything to do except wait and speak to his vet again.

If his brother had ringworm, then he was exposed and likely was incubating and about to lose patches of hair. So you did have to treat both of them. Ringworm can be a PAIN to get rid of.... my best advice is to clean your house thoroughly and for now regularly...vacuum (and they say using disposable bags is best, although cleaning out the canister between days is still good) and swiffer cloths are fabulous for all surfaces too... the issue is that there are spores that are released from the infected hairs, those fungal spores hang out happily for months waiting to reinfect once you think you've gotten rid of it :-( Swiffer cloths being electrostatically charged actually do a great job of capturing the spores. The time I had ringworm here I got all nerdy scientist on it and purchased culture medium so that I could make sure my house was rid of it. You can use a swiffer cloth and cut it into squares to swipe over surfaces and then inoculate the culture plates to find out if there are any spores remaining... as well as use new toothbrushes to sample your cat's fur to culture. Although I am sure your vet is doing that..you need two negative cultures a month apart to be fairly sure it is gone. I didn't use the lyme sulfur baths, as my vet said it was too old school, we used Malaseb shampoo and spray for alternate days... much more pleasant for all involved. And we used terbinafine orally to cover all bases, it's the least nasty of the oral antifungals. NEVER do I want to deal with that fungus again!

Does one kitten tend to groom more than the other? If so, then I could see the lyme treatments affecting one more than the other. It's noxious stuff so if one tends to be the one that grooms more, they would potentially be ingesting more...just a thought.

 

[Louie'sDad]

???? You trying to buzz this cat? Sometimes it helps in humans... Megace even less.....
The B-complex is always worth a try and being a water soluble vitamin, high amounts should not be harmful (but don't get ridiculous)
Joe, one of my cats really doesn't have a hard formed stool. Doesn't seem to bother him. Curiously, all three of my SV's can occasionally have soft stools. ( I do kick around the the thought f the Tric infection...)

At the same time the breeder, Holly Hummel gave me the ProZyme, she also sent me enough Claxamox to administer for possible coccidia infection. There was no infection, and the Clavamox course made no difference.

I'm serious about the Marinol. In extremely small doses, it would probably be effective. If I were to try this (with the cooperation of a DVM, of course), I'd administer in a proportional amount by body weight human:feline, and then cut that in half, for starters. I'd increase slowly but no more than the original proportional amount.

 

[Per Lausund]

At the same time the breeder, Holly Hummel gave me the ProZyme, she also sent me enough Claxamox to administer for possible coccidia infection. There was no infection, and the Clavamox course made no difference.

I'm serious about the Marinol. In extremely small doses, it would probably be effective. If I were to try this (with the cooperation of a DVM, of course), I'd administer in a proportional amount by body weight human:feline, and then cut that in half, for starters. I'd increase slowly but no more than the original proportional amount.

Why would you give Clavamox to treat coccidiae? Was that explained, ´cause I´d sure like to hear that?

 

[Brigitte Cowell]

The best medication for coccidia is not clavamox but ponazuril, you need to get that from a compounding pharmacy via prescription though. I've never had clavamox prescribed for coccidia, the old treatment for it was Albon http://www.petfooddirect.com/produc...t?extcid=PLA&gclid=COintfPphLYCFcZ_Qgod8T0A9g which is bacteriostatic, so it doesn't kill the coccidia but stops it growing so that the kitten's immune system can then hopefully deal with it. Ponazuril is more effective but not as easy to source...

 

[Louie'sDad]

Joe, I wouldn't put Prozyme in the same use category as a probiotic, it's enzymes to help digest food rather than the friendly bacteria to help repopulate the gut... I like Proviable as a probiotic or Probios. Proviable is good as it has two forms, a paste that contains kaolin and pectin to help soothe the digestive tract and firm stools...as well as the probiotic bacteria, and then capsules with just the bacteria for after the stools are firmer. Probios comes as a powder that is easy to sprinkle on food, the bacteria are seemingly cultured in milk-containing base so it smells like dehydrated milk powder and they don't seem to mind the taste.

My vet always recommends taking a kitten or cat back to the blandest diet if trying to sort out digestive issues. He recommends boiled chicken and rice, and it can take up to a month to settle the digestion in some cats. Years ago we had to do that with the whole household for that long to get one of my Savannahs settled when she developed an intolerance to Evo kibble. Once the stools are formed and stable, then you can work on reintroducing a more "normal" diet. So that's an option, although I've found putting them on a raw diet does a similar thing, just removing kibble and canned until their systems are settled.

Thanks Brigitte. He's growing well, active, and not lethargic or sick. The semi-soft stools don't seem to bother him, at all. I'll bear with it for his sake, but appreciate the "tip" about Proviable of Probios. The kibble that I'm giving him is VERY rich and loaded with protein and nutrients. Maybe too rich for him at his tender age. Because he is packing on the weight so well, I'm reluctant to cut/change his rich diet. I will buy and use some of the Proviable/Probios.

The longer the stool is resident in the bowe, the harder, dryer and less smelly it becomes. Surprisingly, sometimes he produces stools "on demand". If I use the bathroom where his box is, he'll sometimes urinate/defacate "because I'm there". He should try holding it in longer to dessicate it some more.