Domestic Wildcats Sells Sick Kittens - domesticwildcat.com - Domestic Wild Cat - Taran Nolan

[NikkiA]

I am glad to hear they refunded your deposit.
Re: a kitten, I understand that you have your heart set on an F2, and being lucky enough to share our lives with an F2, I get it. I would say though that you may not want to rule out either (a) a non-standard or (b) a later generation.
I love all 4 of our kitties.
F3 Jarvis, F4 Mickey Blue Eyes, and F5 Diablo are wonderful kitties, and Diablo and Mickey were far less than your budget, together. Diablo was about $950, and Mickey Blue Eyes was about $1450.
In my mind, when it comes to what makes a SV a SV, it isn't the spotted coat, it is the personality.

 

[dice]

It's great that you got a refund. Now just save up fur that special F2. And yeah, they range from 5-8.5k but are definitely worth every penny. Least my 2's were.

 

[RBgodzilla]

Hello. I am new to this site so I'll start with saying hi.

After reading through all the comments, I was wondering how many people have bought from this breeder and had no issues with their cubs?

I ran across this breeder and asked about the paperwork and was told that they don't do paperwork because people copy their line. They seem like really nice people and have provided a lot of info back regarding their cubs.

I'm hoping the few bad experiences are just that, a few bad experiences....but that overall this breeder has quality savannahs for a great price.

Any thoughts? Thank you.

 

[kokogal]

You have read through all of the comments and you still believe that they "have quality savannahs for a great price"? I'm sorry but they seem highly unethical, and I wouldn't recommend them to an enemy. Frankly I feel just terrible for their animals and they do not even really sell savannahs - they just call them that to get more recognition and more money. If you want a good breeder there are many great breeders that you can find on this forum - notice that these people are not listed in any posting that recommends them, rather suggesting that people should stay away.

 

[admin]

They don't sell Savannahs and Savannahs have kittens not cubs! Their cats are a mix of who knows what... No one would want to copy their lines, believe me. I agree with kokogal... If you have read through everything and still want to buy from them, I have no words.




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[RBgodzilla]

They don't sell Savannahs and Savannahs have kittens not cubs! Their cats are a mix of who knows what... No one would want to copy their lines, believe me. I agree with kokogal... If you have read through everything and still want to buy from them, I have no words.




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Thanks you for your response.

I was just curious about how many actually bought from them and things were fine.

I will not be buying from them. Thanks again.

 

[WitchyWoman]

I was just curious about how many actually bought from them and things were fine.

Domestic Wildcats has come up in several threads about other topics -- FIP, polydacytlism, general complaints about health of kittens -- that weren't started specifically about that breeder. I think maybe one person a few years ago reported no issues with their kitten. I hadn't heard of this breeder until someone started a thread about their kitten having FIP (bought from a different breeder) and two or three people joined the discussion about getting dying kittens from the Nolans. I do not understand why they are still in business rather than jail.

 

[Brigitte Cowell]

Hello. I am new to this site so I'll start with saying hi.

After reading through all the comments, I was wondering how many people have bought from this breeder and had no issues with their cubs?

I ran across this breeder and asked about the paperwork and was told that they don't do paperwork because people copy their line. They seem like really nice people and have provided a lot of info back regarding their cubs.

I'm hoping the few bad experiences are just that, a few bad experiences....but that overall this breeder has quality savannahs for a great price.

Any thoughts? Thank you.

Please, what do you define as "quality"?

Yes, the kittens are cheap, because they are mixed breed kittens without paperwork, vetting nor vaccinations as they send them out young to avoid that.

The bottom line is that if you purchase from Domestic Wildcats, in most cases you are not purchasing a Savannah kitten as much as a mixed breed kitten that includes Savannah heritage. Big difference, hence the big difference in price. You get what you pay for.

The warnings are there, if you purchase you have nobody else to blame when things go sideways. But please don't imagine you are getting a quality Savannnah. That's not what you are purchasing.

Kittens are not cubs. Breeders that call domestic kittens cubs... well that's a warning in itself.

 

[RBgodzilla]

Please, what do you define as "quality"?

Yes, the kittens are cheap, because they are mixed breed kittens without paperwork, vetting nor vaccinations as they send them out young to avoid that.

The bottom line is that if you purchase from Domestic Wildcats, in most cases you are not purchasing a Savannah kitten as much as a mixed breed kitten that includes Savannah heritage. Big difference, hence the big difference in price. You get what you pay for.

The warnings are there, if you purchase you have nobody else to blame when things go sideways. But please don't imagine you are getting a quality Savannnah. That's not what you are purchasing.

Kittens are not cubs. Breeders that call domestic kittens cubs... well that's a warning in itself.

Wow, well let me explain this a little better since I feel like you guys took this the wrong way.

I'm not saying or defending this breeder saying that their sick kittens are quality. Obviously that would be stupid.

And I wasn't saying I still believe they have quality kittens.....I was hoping they have quality kittens.

I asked the questions and made my comments so I can understand the bigger picture rather than a few people posting their bad experiences (I haven't read all the other comments as WitchyWoman mentioned).

Despite all the helpful advice on here, i can easily say that this forum is full of rude people who are quick to make you feel stupid since the first two comments I received started off that way and, seeing the nature of this thread, your first words are questioning my interpretation of quality.

Well, I'm not going to judge this forum based on a few comments and this is why I asked the questions about the breeder. I'm imagining they have sold many kittens so there must have been some good litters sold and people are happy with their purchase. Like the example I mentioned about this forum, I'd rather not judge based on several comments when overall the negatives might have only been a small portion of the overall experiences. I was just curious if anybody had good experieneces with this breeder....simply for my knowledge.

And I did mention that I am NOT going to purchase from them.

I know I'm the new guy here and I haven't earned anybody's trust or respect, and pretty sure I'll take some heat for this post ,but I needed to make clear the purpose of my initial post.

I will find a good "quality" breeder. Thanks.

 

[Brigitte Cowell]

I get it...I'm sorry if you felt attacked...but you did say "overall this breeder has quality savannahs for a great price"...hence it did beg the question of what is "quality" to you? if you care about the Savannah breed then you want a breeder that breeds towards the breed standard for Savannahs...if you want a "wild" looking kitten (a their website is geared towards) then this is less important.

This thread is full of lies that these breeders tell, and health issues etc. And I do get that it might not be 100% of the kittens produced, but how many breeders have even a few cases reported where the breeder does not take major steps to improve things. All diseases/defects might happen to any breeder, BUT it is the actions of the breeder afterwards that tells their quality.

There is no excuse for them producing unregistered kittens. Their excuses given to date are bogus. There is no protection of their lines, nobody is that interested as their kittens do not challenge the level of type that other breeders produce. All this does is hide the fact that these kittens are not what they are represented to be.

I dealt with the heartbreak this year, as Savannah Rescue I dealt with the surrender of a kitten that Domestic Wildcats refused to take back. The kitten had been chronically ill since the owner received him, and the foster home had similar issues until the kitten passed and FIP was diagnosed. The breeder chose to attack the breeder rather than accept the diagnosis and Rescue (Chausie Rescue as we decided that the kitten was more Chausie than Savannah) bore the veterinary bills. The buyer of this kitten was enthusiastic about pursuing this through courts but the lack of contract really stymied this. I don't think it will go anywhere.

So please take warning, if you are going to fall for the "bargain" offered then get a signed contract at the very least.